Nacho telling Marquez was winning hurt him

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  • Noy
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    Nacho telling Marquez was winning hurt him

    I had it 6-3 Marquez after 9. Then he got conservative. Is Nacho to blame for his loss after telling him he was winning later in the rounds?

    Round 9 could have gone either way and I can see some judges give that one to Pacquiao - remember there are other factors to judging beyond landing shots - ring generalship, aggressiveness, etc. I personally gave it to Marquez because his shots were cleaner, and for every landing shot from Pac, Marquez had a reply.

    Then after Rd 9 - he stopped firing and I had Pac winning the last 3 rounds. 116-112 is crazy though since other than round 9 which could have gone either way, I think Marquez won the majority of the early rounds.

    I say no to 4th match and Floyd beats Pac.
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    #2
    He was speaking the truth, he was winning the fight. He didn’t want JMM to become reckless and go for the KO increasing the likelihood of a knockout. Great manager,

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    • Prime 407
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      #3
      Never change your gameplan if you think your winning, it's the reason why your winning in the first place. Critical error by Nacho, he was so affraid of Pac's power he made JMM too tentative to engage. Truth is, if JMM had actually fought more, he woulda been on the canvas anyway.

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      • Weebler I
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        #4
        He still won 2 of the last 3 rounds, he did more than enough to win.

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        • Ring Leader
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          #5
          Didnt matter if Marquez was told he was winning or not, no matter if he beat Pacquiao in all of the last 4 rounds even if they were close those rounds were going to Pacquiao because he was suppose to win and is the cash cow

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          • Noy
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            Originally posted by Flawless*
            He was speaking the truth, he was winning the fight. He didn’t want JMM to become reckless and go for the KO increasing the likelihood of a knockout. Great manager,
            He was kicking Pac's ass... why change the game plan?

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            • vacon04
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              He still won some of the last rounds, and Nacho was right, he was winning. He had to be careful, Pacman and Roach knew they were losing, so they knew that Pac had to throw everything at the end. Marquez was aware of Manny's punching power, so he adjusted to avoid being knocked down, and still for me he won some of the last rounds, more than enough to win the fight.

              A lot of guys keep saying "he should have continued doing the same he was doing" ... it was a different fight at the end, Pacman was going to be more aggressive and Marquez had to be even more careful.

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              • x3_bazooka_x3
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                Originally posted by Noy
                I had it 6-3 Marquez after 9. Then he got conservative. Is Nacho to blame for his loss after telling him he was winning later in the rounds?

                Round 9 could have gone either way and I can see some judges give that one to Pacquiao - remember there are other factors to judging beyond landing shots - ring generalship, aggressiveness, etc. I personally gave it to Marquez because his shots were cleaner, and for every landing shot from Pac, Marquez had a reply.

                Then after Rd 9 - he stopped firing and I had Pac winning the last 3 rounds. 116-112 is crazy though since other than round 9 which could have gone either way, I think Marquez won the majority of the early rounds.

                I say no to 4th match and Floyd beats Pac.
                Call me crazy but you have to land shots and be the EFFECTIVE AGGRESSOR to win rounds, I had marquez winning rounds 2 through 11 he just worked and controlled the fight landed the cleaner shots, blocked, Picked off, parried and ducked most of Pacs shots...

                I disagree its not Nachos fault, its the greedy commissions fault who scored it for Pac just in hopes to get that Mayweather fight

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                • Slip Stream
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                  #9
                  Nacho wasn't the problem whatsoever, reality was. There was no way Marquez was going to walk out of that ring with a decision win, he needed a knockout.

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                  • pvenditto88
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                    ^^^^Which means boxing is rigged and there should be arrests made.


                    Pacquiao is a ***** if he had any balls he would say marquez won and lets have a rematch.

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