Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: This Shows How Superior Mayweather Is

[v.cassiusali@ya]

now that chicken floyd knows pac's "alleged" weaknesses, its time for him to step up and give boxing fans a shot...

but unless and until chicken floyd fight pacman, and beat him, he's still a chicken boxing fans used to know...

[You a busta CJ]

42-0 undefeated #1 p4p

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[bluetuazon]

Dear Juan Manuel Marquez,

First, congratulations on an excellent performance against Manny Pacquiao on November 12. You demonstrated that more than any other fighter, you have figured out the Pacquiao puzzle. You deserve great credit for that.

In your post fight interview you said you were robbed, and that you might retire. That’s understandable in the heat of the moment right after the fight, but after you’ve had a chance to reflect on it, I hope you will elect to continue. It is clear you have the skills and physical ability, and Bernard Hopkins has certainly taught us that 38 is not as old as we thought it was. Your performance against Manny reinforces that.

If you elect to continue fighting, and in particular if you elect to challenge Manny Pacquiao to a fourth fight, I would respectfully suggest that you need to be aware of some realities about judges scoring. Had you been more fully concious and accepting of them this time, you might have won the fight by pushing yourself harder in the later rounds when the fight still hung in the balance. True, by pushing yourself you would be exposing yourself to more risk — even to a possible knockout, but that is always the way of it when you are the challenger attempting to take the belt away from the champion.

The judges in Nevada are charged to look for a) clean, effective punching, b) effective aggression, c) ring generalship, and d) defense. A study of how US (and most other) judges score over the last 10 years shows that in a close fight, the judges almost always favor the fighter who presses the action and is perceived as the aggressor in the fight. Being the aggressor almost always generates a higher punch output, and even if the punches aren’t completely clean, the judges reward the attacking style which, even if it doesn’t result in clean punches, does expose the aggressor to greater risk than his opponent–something that the judges evidently feel should be rewarded. Your reliance on counterpunching, while it may produce cleaner landed shots, will always put you at a disadvantage with judges in a close fight if you rely heavily on the counterpunching style and do not act as the aggressor.

To state the equation very clearly: The very act of launching an attack against a composed, skillful opponent whose guard is up is a risky manuever which exposes the attacker. By taking that risk and launching that attack, the attacker gains favor in the eyes of the judges, and even if his punches don’t land as cleanly as your counterpunches, he gets credit for a) forcing the action and being the aggressor, b) taking the risk associated with attacking a skilled, waiting opponent.

In your first two fights with Manny Pacquiao, while you were oriented toward counterpunching, you also launched offensive attacks and in both of those fights you had a higher volume of punches that Pacquiao; a higher landed punch total; and a higher number of solid, compelling punches. But in those fights — he knocked you down four times. There is no doubt that if you had not been knocked down, you would have won both those fights because all of the other statistics were in your favor.

But this is not true of your most recent fight. In that fight Pacquiao had a higher volume of attacks; higher volume of punches; higher number of landed punches; higher number of landed powershots. Your counters were effective and in some cases dramatic — but by its very nature, your counterpunch oriented approach will impress the fans (and your trainer, evidently), but not the judges — at least it won’ t impress them enough to offset the advantages that Pacquiao is gaining from his constantly being the aggressor; constantly exposing himself to risk by launching attacks against a waiting opponent; and in doing so generating an overall impression that he’s moving forward while you’re moving backwards; he’s getting off more punches (hence taking more risk); he’s landing more punches even if they’re not as clean (after all he’s punching a waiting opponent, not an exposed one).

Also, if I may offer one other piece of advice. In each of these fights, your Hall of Fame trainer Mr. Berestain has repeatedly told you in the corner between rounds that you are winning the fight. By now, given your highly intelligent nature, you must realize that no matter what Mr. Berestain says, you must keep fighting as if you are not ahead. You are the challenger; the underdog; and you are using a counterpunching style that puts you at a disadvantage with judges. You must never assume you are ahead. In the fight on November 12, if you had gone into the “championship rounds” with the attitude that you must win these rounds, the outcome of the fight might have been different.

Sincerely,,

A Fight Fan who appreciates what you bring to the sport

[jacksoj9]

Mayweather vs. Pacman!!!

Mayweather will beat the living dog sh---t out of Pacquiao. He hits harder than Marquez, he's faster, more accurate, has better deffense, and he's stronger. He will wear little pacman down and drown him. (Real talk.) Ya'll love to hype that little steroid dude up. Floyd will knock the steroids out of him. Let them negotiations start for May 5th 2012. Floyd is going to shut all of you haters up. He lost againts Marquez 3 times. Marquez was robbed again. Bob Arum wants to make the negotiations hard as possible because after floyd beats pacquiao, they both will be done. He has no more marketble fighters to promote. Arum is the hold up for real. He's milking paquiao.

[puga]

Mayweather will beat the living dog sh---t out of Pacquiao. He hits harder than Marquez, he's faster, more accurate, has better deffense, and he's stronger. He will wear little pacman down and drown him. (Real talk.) Ya'll love to hype that little steroid dude up. Floyd will knock the steroids out of him. Let them negotiations start for May 5th 2012. Floyd is going to shut all of you haters up. He lost againts Marquez 3 times. Marquez was robbed again. Bob Arum wants to make the negotiations hard as possible because after floyd beats pacquiao, they both will be done. He has no more marketble fighters to promote. Arum is the hold up for real. He's milking paquiao.

why does he need all that extra testing then if he's easy work?....marquez did not need all that and he arguably beat him...so why does he need to play all the psychological games(what some call it)?....

[Gino Ros]

It is amazing to think just how easily Floyd dominated Marquez.

Mayweather is a great, great fighter.

[BoZz]

Mayweather toyed around with mannys papi...JMM is mannys papi..he beat him 3 times and *******s know it..no wonder they have so much hate for their hero's papi

[mikemurni]

Mayweather toyed around with mannys papi...JMM is mannys papi..he beat him 3 times and *******s know it..no wonder they have so much hate for their hero's papi

JMM should alse be pissed on GB for throwing him under the bus. Not only was his preparations interrupted with Floyd's "injury".. His opponent also cheated him on the scales...lol..

[chito]

pacquiao's lackluster performance against jmm could be a blessing in disguise for us boxing fans. mayweather, jr. would finally agree to fight pac once he sees this on tape

[throbk1974]

Well, now that Marquez had a good performance, and Manny had an off night, Floyd Jr. will try to make the fight. He doesn't have to be scared, anymore and can now, he can sleep with the lights off