Floyd Mayweather Sr. -vs- Charlie Zelenoff Video

[Lucky Jim]

what are you talking about? i was quoting mo who had seen a video of a 23 year old cheap shotting an old man and running his mouth. if you want to run your mouth and act like an idiot, you need to be ready for the consequences. so his only point was that if charlie showed up to get in his face he would kill the guy. it isnt like mo is going to hunt him down

I've heard this stated a lot over the last few days not just from Mo, about people saying CZ is going to get killed. I just think that is quite an extreme overreaction to a guy who is basically a bit annoying, mostly on YouTube. I didn't see Mayweather hurt from any cheap shot, and the cheap shot wasn't even seen on the clip anyway. 99% of the people getting into a lather about Charlie are people who don't need to have any contact with him, ever. But they are drawn to him at the same time as they are repelled by him, which is what is really interesting here.

[Lucky Jim]

Bro he's a drug addict with mental problems.... Repeat that a couple of times.

Like I said, so was Lenny Bruce. So were many other great comedians, musicians, writers, visual artists, etc. Doesn't mean he hasn't got talent. He obviously does have talent, because he's got a sizable audience already.

[Cloud]

Like I said, so was Lenny Bruce. So were many other great comedians, musicians, etc. Doesn't mean he hasn't got talent. He obviously does have talent, because he's got a sizable audience already.

True....i kind of feel sorry for the poor bastard. His ''fans'' are clearly playing him.

[etlux]

Yeah, i remember reading something about the stripper. Pheelgood or somebody along those lines went to fight him and Charlie was ****ting himself, had to be consoled by his dad who told Pheel about it. Pheel left in respect for Mr. Z.

They say Oleg Kud KO'd Charlie and he was out for 10 mins. Took him home and his father said he was sick in the head and he was always causing trouble. They thought he was dead...

Charlie's also pointed a gun at some guy called Nino who went to fight him. Charlie then claimed Nino had ducked him....even though Nino had 2 guys with him and Charlie had 1 guy....carrying a gun...

Charlie gets made to brush his teeth and the stripper said his mom kisses him on the mouth...

I read all this this evening on a web page....i'll try and find it so it doesnt look like im bull****ting...give me a few minutes.

yep. and at the time charlie was only what 20 or so and i think the stripper said he was a ******. I can't remember the details, wish I could. Those were fun times when Charlie and his ****** manager Stacy were members here and would get regularly banned at NSB. Then the admins finally couldn't take it anymore because Charlie would make a new thread every few hours and the thread would skyrocket out of control far more than even pac/mayweather *****/******* threads and the admins banned charlie and his gay manager for life

[Lucky Jim]

True....i kind of feel sorry for the poor bastard. His ''fans'' are clearly playing him.

Or maybe he's playing them -- or they're both playing each other. That's part of the genius here -- you're never totally sure which.

[charlieg]

Even if Charlie is messed up, hey, so was Lenny Bruce. There's definitely an "art" to what Charlie does, regardless of his health. He's made this ongoing quest to fictionalize himself into a great boxer into an art form. And that's what is interesting about him. He might be a bit mad, a bit crazy, but so were many artists through time. Van Gogh cut off his ear, remember. Charlie has made his life into a work of art, even if he's not got a fancy theory to go with it. He's done it on instinct.

I can't believe you just tried to argue that this little prick is an artist.

The only reason anybody is hearing about this guy is because 1) the Internet and 2) he is totally embarrassing himself.

This is not Sasha Baron Cohen and Ali G, purposefully being ****** in order to create socially awkward situations that expose people as gullible or prejudice or both. It is not an expert form of comedy. It is just a little fool doing disgraceful things - now sucker punching 2 people on camera.

[charlieg]

Or maybe he's playing them -- or they're both playing each other. That's part of the genius here -- you're never totally sure which.

You must be a very simple fellow if you think of this as "genius".

EDIT: I do wonder if you are actually Charlie Z.

[D.I.E.S.E.L]

Bro he's a drug addict with mental problems.... Repeat that a couple of times.

Those claims are unfounded. None of us know for sure.

[etlux]

Those claims are unfounded. None of us know for sure.

they are not unfounded if you read my post you'll see there is proof, read up and educate yourself dumby.

[Pelencho]

I've heard this stated a lot over the last few days not just from Mo, about people saying CZ is going to get killed. I just think that is quite an extreme overreaction to a guy who is basically a bit annoying, mostly on YouTube. I didn't see Mayweather hurt from any cheap shot, and the cheap shot wasn't even seen on the clip anyway. 99% of the people getting into a lather about Charlie are people who don't need to have any contact with him, ever. But they are drawn to him at the same time as they are repelled by him, which is what is really interesting here.

well even if he is messed up i the head, i would think charlie would be smart enough not to try those kind of antics with mo, or any actual world class fighter. its one thing to act like an ass with floyd sr, its quite another to pull that **** with people who are world class athletes.

and to clarify, mo was saying thats what would happen if charlie tried to sucker punch him like that. and if he did, he needs to prepare to accept the consequences.

anyone know how to get ahold of charlie? i need to set up some sparring! that would be awesome