Emanuel Steward: “If Marquez got his weight up and he can handle it, I think it will give him a chance to neutralize what I think is the biggest advantage for Pacquiao going into this fight”
EMANUEL STEWARD: Everything is going good today. I’m enjoying these last few days before I have to start going into my HBO thing and then to Wladimir Klitschko. I’m excited about doing the broadcast of the fight between Marquez and Pacquiao, which is a fight that I have eagerly awaited for quite a few years. That will be coming up Saturday so I’m excited about that.
JENNA: Now you mentioned you’re excited for that fight. There is obviously the buzz building with the 24/7 series. I don’t know if you watched that, but what do you think is going on with both of these camps and have you seen anything that leads you to believe the result will be any different than you thought before?
STEWARD: Well first of all you have some situations where just the chemistry of certain styles are always going to make for good fights. You know Ali had that situation with Joe Frazier and also with Kenny Norton, and you had Gatti and Ward, and I think this is the case of just styles. The two styles mesh together and they would make for a good fight any time they fight. This is the third one, and the only thing that separates the difference between them was the four knockdowns scored by one, which was Manny Pacquiao. That’s what’s given him the one point edge after 24 rounds of fighting. So just that alone suggests it’s going to be a good fight, and when you have a fighter like Marquez who wants this fight so badly and never thought he would get the third fight, he’s going to fight the fight of his life. Freddie Roach wants to shut him up and convincingly knock him out. Just with the history of those guys they’ve always been in good fights, so I just think it has all of the ingredients of being a very good fight and will probably live up to the expectations, unlike we had for so many other fights this year that didn’t.
JENNA: Now Emanuel, one thing that’s very noticeable in the 24/7 is Juan Manuel Marquez has put on a significant amount of muscle compared to his fight with Mayweather Junior, where he looked not to be in the best of shape in terms of how the weight looked on his body. How do you think that could negatively impact with that extra muscle facing Pacquiao again?
STEWARD: Well I don’t think it will hurt him too much, because when he fought Mayweather he was bigger but it was like trying to put a Mack Truck on a Volkswagon frame. It’s just his body wasn’t structured for it. If they did it properly I think it could possibly help him, because the biggest difference I see in the fight is Manny I feel is naturally about 8-10 pounds of solid weight bigger than Marquez, whereas when they fought the first two times I thought they were pretty much the same. But in that time I think Manny has actually blossomed into being a solid 138-140 pounder, his real weight. Regardless of what he weighs in those fights that’s his real weight, and I think Marquez is still a little 132 pounder. When he was fighting his last title fight and we interviewed him and he was defending his title at 135, he admitted that he had a problem of getting past 132. So he was always still just a junior light weight at best, and Manny became like a junior welterweight. I just think that can be a big factor going down the stretch in a tough fight. If Marquez got his weight up and he can handle it, I think it will give him a chance to neutralize what I think is the biggest advantage for Pacquiao going into this fight.
JENNA: Alright Manny, well changing things from that to some news of the week involving you, apparently you are now the new trainer of Yuriokis Gamboa and people are getting really excited about that. I just wanted to get your thoughts on working with him and how you think you might be able to improve him?
STEWARD: Well it’s always exciting when you’re working with a naturally talented athlete, and particularly ones who’ve had a great amateur background such as Gamboa. In the earlier fights in his career when I watched him, I wasn’t that impressed. To be honest with you I was one of the naysayers I guess, because I thought his defense was not too good and also his balance. But seemingly the last fights I saw him in, he’s improved. He seems to be focusing on being a more settled down fighter. His defense seems like he’s been concentrating on and improving it a lot. I was just very impressed with what I saw in his recent fights, in particular that he had such unbelievable hand and feet and head and eye coordination, which are these things that you can’t teach. That’s what has gotten him by as an amateur I guess, but as a professional he seems to be maturing pretty well now. But I’m excited about it! I know the ultimate goal that they’re going for is a fight which I was told may be even sooner than I expected, would be with Brandon Rios which I think is a tough, tough fight. Brandon is a good fighter with a solid amateur background. Even though he was not in the Olympics, he still had a good solid background and I know from these national tournaments that I’ve been at that he’s a tough kid and he’s a physically and mentally strong man. He doesn’t just apply mental pressure, but he’s physically very strong also. He’s going to apply that pressure throughout the entire fight whenever they fight, if they fight. So I look at it like it’s going to be a very tough fight, but it’s one of the big fights in our sport that I think could live up to expectations. So I’m excited about working with Gamboa.
JENNA: Alright well Emanuel, when people talk about Yuriokis Gamboa they his biggest flaw is his chin and the fact that he is defensively wide open enough that he gets knocked down and he doesn’t take the shots that well. You’ve worked with Wladimir Klitschko for a long time who had the same thing about him, and you helped improve his defense. What changes do you think you need to make in Gamboa to improve his?
STEWARD: Well he’s got all the gifts and coordination skills that you can’t teach. I don’t think that it will be that difficult. In his last fight it seemed like he himself has already decided that he has to improve his defense, and he’s been doing it on his own. So I don’t think that will be a problem.
JENNA: Okay. Well we’re also on the line, as always, with my Co-Host Geoff Ciani.
GEOFFREY CIANI: His Emanuel! It’s a great pleasure to have you back on the show.
STEWARD: Oh, it’s always my pleasure to be on this show, Geoff.
CIANI: Emanuel I wanted to ask you, the last time we had you and Andy Lee on the program you guys both seemed to hint at the fact that there might be a December fight. I was wondering if that was still on the radar and if anything is coming together with that?
STEWARD: Yes it is. Well Andy has made it very clear to me. He’s in training right now and he wants to fight in December. We were hoping to have something maybe around December 17, and it has been discussed that it’s possible he may fight on the Wladimir Klitschko card on December 10. He will be fighting hopefully in December, but he would like for it to be somewhere on the east coast, preferably New York, Chicago, or maybe even in Detroit. But he definitely said he wants to fight before the end of the year.
CIANI: Now Emanuel you also mentioned you wouldn’t be too disappointed if Andy Lee didn’t get the fight with Martinez right away in 2012, because Martinez was looking for a big money fight.
STEWARD: Well let me say this. The fight that I want more than anything for Andy Lee right now is Martinez. If Martinez gets a big super fight with a Mayweather or something like that, fine! But other than that, if he has just a middleweight title fight then Andy Lee deserves it more than anybody else and we are prepared for that fight. Andy has fought hard, he’s avenged his only loss, he’s been a fairly active middleweight, he’s been fighting regularly, and he beat an undefeated fighter and then came back with another tough fight. I think if he isn’t fighting a super fight Martinez, then Andy Lee deserves the fight more than all these other guys. He’s worked hard. Out of respect for Martinez I would allow him to go ahead and take a super fight, but if he fights a regular middleweight fight—Andy Lee is the only person that I myself would accept.
CIANI: Changing things up a little bit, the Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson fight wound up being a bit of a disappointment for fans. I’m curious though, before the bizarre and unfortunate ending to that fight, what did you see in the action that unfolded in what little action we got in one-plus rounds?
JENNA: Now you mentioned you’re excited for that fight. There is obviously the buzz building with the 24/7 series. I don’t know if you watched that, but what do you think is going on with both of these camps and have you seen anything that leads you to believe the result will be any different than you thought before?
STEWARD: Well first of all you have some situations where just the chemistry of certain styles are always going to make for good fights. You know Ali had that situation with Joe Frazier and also with Kenny Norton, and you had Gatti and Ward, and I think this is the case of just styles. The two styles mesh together and they would make for a good fight any time they fight. This is the third one, and the only thing that separates the difference between them was the four knockdowns scored by one, which was Manny Pacquiao. That’s what’s given him the one point edge after 24 rounds of fighting. So just that alone suggests it’s going to be a good fight, and when you have a fighter like Marquez who wants this fight so badly and never thought he would get the third fight, he’s going to fight the fight of his life. Freddie Roach wants to shut him up and convincingly knock him out. Just with the history of those guys they’ve always been in good fights, so I just think it has all of the ingredients of being a very good fight and will probably live up to the expectations, unlike we had for so many other fights this year that didn’t.
JENNA: Now Emanuel, one thing that’s very noticeable in the 24/7 is Juan Manuel Marquez has put on a significant amount of muscle compared to his fight with Mayweather Junior, where he looked not to be in the best of shape in terms of how the weight looked on his body. How do you think that could negatively impact with that extra muscle facing Pacquiao again?
STEWARD: Well I don’t think it will hurt him too much, because when he fought Mayweather he was bigger but it was like trying to put a Mack Truck on a Volkswagon frame. It’s just his body wasn’t structured for it. If they did it properly I think it could possibly help him, because the biggest difference I see in the fight is Manny I feel is naturally about 8-10 pounds of solid weight bigger than Marquez, whereas when they fought the first two times I thought they were pretty much the same. But in that time I think Manny has actually blossomed into being a solid 138-140 pounder, his real weight. Regardless of what he weighs in those fights that’s his real weight, and I think Marquez is still a little 132 pounder. When he was fighting his last title fight and we interviewed him and he was defending his title at 135, he admitted that he had a problem of getting past 132. So he was always still just a junior light weight at best, and Manny became like a junior welterweight. I just think that can be a big factor going down the stretch in a tough fight. If Marquez got his weight up and he can handle it, I think it will give him a chance to neutralize what I think is the biggest advantage for Pacquiao going into this fight.
JENNA: Alright Manny, well changing things from that to some news of the week involving you, apparently you are now the new trainer of Yuriokis Gamboa and people are getting really excited about that. I just wanted to get your thoughts on working with him and how you think you might be able to improve him?
STEWARD: Well it’s always exciting when you’re working with a naturally talented athlete, and particularly ones who’ve had a great amateur background such as Gamboa. In the earlier fights in his career when I watched him, I wasn’t that impressed. To be honest with you I was one of the naysayers I guess, because I thought his defense was not too good and also his balance. But seemingly the last fights I saw him in, he’s improved. He seems to be focusing on being a more settled down fighter. His defense seems like he’s been concentrating on and improving it a lot. I was just very impressed with what I saw in his recent fights, in particular that he had such unbelievable hand and feet and head and eye coordination, which are these things that you can’t teach. That’s what has gotten him by as an amateur I guess, but as a professional he seems to be maturing pretty well now. But I’m excited about it! I know the ultimate goal that they’re going for is a fight which I was told may be even sooner than I expected, would be with Brandon Rios which I think is a tough, tough fight. Brandon is a good fighter with a solid amateur background. Even though he was not in the Olympics, he still had a good solid background and I know from these national tournaments that I’ve been at that he’s a tough kid and he’s a physically and mentally strong man. He doesn’t just apply mental pressure, but he’s physically very strong also. He’s going to apply that pressure throughout the entire fight whenever they fight, if they fight. So I look at it like it’s going to be a very tough fight, but it’s one of the big fights in our sport that I think could live up to expectations. So I’m excited about working with Gamboa.
JENNA: Alright well Emanuel, when people talk about Yuriokis Gamboa they his biggest flaw is his chin and the fact that he is defensively wide open enough that he gets knocked down and he doesn’t take the shots that well. You’ve worked with Wladimir Klitschko for a long time who had the same thing about him, and you helped improve his defense. What changes do you think you need to make in Gamboa to improve his?
STEWARD: Well he’s got all the gifts and coordination skills that you can’t teach. I don’t think that it will be that difficult. In his last fight it seemed like he himself has already decided that he has to improve his defense, and he’s been doing it on his own. So I don’t think that will be a problem.
JENNA: Okay. Well we’re also on the line, as always, with my Co-Host Geoff Ciani.
GEOFFREY CIANI: His Emanuel! It’s a great pleasure to have you back on the show.
STEWARD: Oh, it’s always my pleasure to be on this show, Geoff.
CIANI: Emanuel I wanted to ask you, the last time we had you and Andy Lee on the program you guys both seemed to hint at the fact that there might be a December fight. I was wondering if that was still on the radar and if anything is coming together with that?
STEWARD: Yes it is. Well Andy has made it very clear to me. He’s in training right now and he wants to fight in December. We were hoping to have something maybe around December 17, and it has been discussed that it’s possible he may fight on the Wladimir Klitschko card on December 10. He will be fighting hopefully in December, but he would like for it to be somewhere on the east coast, preferably New York, Chicago, or maybe even in Detroit. But he definitely said he wants to fight before the end of the year.
CIANI: Now Emanuel you also mentioned you wouldn’t be too disappointed if Andy Lee didn’t get the fight with Martinez right away in 2012, because Martinez was looking for a big money fight.
STEWARD: Well let me say this. The fight that I want more than anything for Andy Lee right now is Martinez. If Martinez gets a big super fight with a Mayweather or something like that, fine! But other than that, if he has just a middleweight title fight then Andy Lee deserves it more than anybody else and we are prepared for that fight. Andy has fought hard, he’s avenged his only loss, he’s been a fairly active middleweight, he’s been fighting regularly, and he beat an undefeated fighter and then came back with another tough fight. I think if he isn’t fighting a super fight Martinez, then Andy Lee deserves the fight more than all these other guys. He’s worked hard. Out of respect for Martinez I would allow him to go ahead and take a super fight, but if he fights a regular middleweight fight—Andy Lee is the only person that I myself would accept.
CIANI: Changing things up a little bit, the Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson fight wound up being a bit of a disappointment for fans. I’m curious though, before the bizarre and unfortunate ending to that fight, what did you see in the action that unfolded in what little action we got in one-plus rounds?
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