In his last 3 fights Manny Pacquiao's opponents where 1-1-1 coming into the fight!

[shade darkar]

Im not even hating on Manny. But numbers dont lie. The media can say what ever they want to say, but the numbers just dont change. 1-1-1 for a guy who's team and fans claim is the best p4p boxer on the planet and possibly one of the greatest of all times is just ridiculous. I dont get it.

what you fail to mention is every 1 of those guys is much bigger than pac.

hatton had just beat malignaggi in a fight that was 50/50 according to the stans on here and looked much better than he normally does.

clottey come of a close loss to cotto. cotto got a pass in the last two rounds in that fight and it still could of gone either way.

oh yeah, he mullered cotto. (which in my opinion is better than any welterweight win mayweather has)

margarito fight wasnt a great fight but still, he was fighting a guy nearly 4 inches taller and 17lbs heavier.

mosley fight was a joke.

all this leads team mayweather to believe pac is on performance enhancing drugs. lol. so yall think he has fought bums, but mayweather thinks he must have been on drugs to beat these guys. lol.

mayweather just fought maidanas left overs.

now thats facts pal.

[Deeznuts]

Tell Mayweather to fight Pac or his fans need to STFU

[ballgamessuck]

Yes it's a fact. Since his fight with David Diaz in June of 2008, Manny Pacquiao has not faced 1 opponent with coming off of a big win or with at least a 3 fight winning streak for that matter.

Here's the FACTS:
- Oscar De La Hoya: 1 fight winning streak vs. Steve Forbes after having been beat by Floyd Mayweather.
- Ricky Hatton: 2 fight winning streak after having been KO'd in 11 by Floyd.
- Miguel Cotto: 2 fight winning streak after having been brutally stopped by Margarito.
- Joshua Clottey: "0" fight win streak. Lost his previous fight by decision to Miguel Cotto.
- Antonio Margarito: 1 win streak vs. Roberto Garcia in Mexico in which he looked horrible. Previous to that he had been stopped by Shane Mosley 9 rounds.
- Shane Mosley: "0" fight win streak. Coming of a draw with Sergio Mora, and an 11 round to 1 beat down by Floyd Mayweather.

In his last 3 fights the "media's" P4P champ has fought Clottey coming off a LOSS, Margarito with a 1 fight winning streak, and Shane Mosley coming off a DRAW. Thats 1-1-1.

How is this justifiable for any boxer what so ever to even be considered among the p4p discussions?

Yes, those three fights have been the three fights since the Cotto fight, after which Paq and Roach clearly called out the Floyd formerly known as a fighter, whereupon Floyd mostly disappeared. Please tell me who, in your opinion, other than the Floyd formerly known as a fighter, should Paq have been fighting in that time frame. All three of Paq's last opponents were selected because the biggest challenge went on vacation.

[ballgamessuck]

juan guzman
sergio martinez
paul williams
andre berto
amir khan
de la hoya at 152
marg at 152

Juan Guzman - not as big a challenge as any of the fighters Paq did fight

Sergio Martinez - Only recently did he say he would come to Paq's weight class, actually he didnt. He still wants Paq to move up, and Floyd still wont fight him.

Paul Williams - Lost to Margarito, would probably have lost to Cotto or Mosley, and Floyd still wont fight him.

Andre Berto - Would lose to any of Paq's last three opponents, and Floyd still wont fight him.

Amir Khan - Not on Paq's level until very recently, if at all, and trained by the same trainer. How would that work out dip****? Oh yeah, Floyd will not fight Khan either.

De la Hoya - The only reason DLH vs Paq took place at 147 is because DLH and Floyd had already agreed to a rematch at 147, then Floyd decided not to fight DLH again and Paq stepped into the fight.

Marg - Your mouth is open so wide it is interfering with your eyesight. Marg's first fight coming off his suspension was at 154, in that post fight interview Marg said he would be returning to 147 for his next fight, then the opportunity to fight for a JMW title came up because the Floyd formerly known as a fighter went on vacation instead of fighting Paq. Oh, one other thing, the Floyd formerly known as a fighter ducked Margarito for years.

[ballgamessuck]

what you fail to mention is every 1 of those guys is much bigger than pac.

hatton had just beat malignaggi in a fight that was 50/50 according to the stans on here and looked much better than he normally does.

clottey come of a close loss to cotto. cotto got a pass in the last two rounds in that fight and it still could of gone either way.

oh yeah, he mullered cotto. (which in my opinion is better than any welterweight win mayweather has)

margarito fight wasnt a great fight but still, he was fighting a guy nearly 4 inches taller and 17lbs heavier.

mosley fight was a joke.

all this leads team mayweather to believe pac is on performance enhancing drugs. lol. so yall think he has fought bums, but mayweather thinks he must have been on drugs to beat these guys. lol.

mayweather just fought maidanas left overs.

now thats facts pal.

Facts mean absolutely nothing to Paq haters. If Carl Froch or Andre Ward started calling out Paq at 168, and he requested a limit of 164, and walked in the ring on fight night at 148, all the Paq haters and Floyd lovers would say Paq had an unfair advantage.

[Und1sputed619]

Mosley was the welterweight champ and #1 ranked welterweight in the world.

Exaclty. Mosley was considered the #1 WW in the world at the time because of his complete dismantling of Antonio Margarito, who up until that point looked like the man to beat @ 147.

[keehlnate]

Floyd's last 3 of 4 opponents, guess how many times they fought prior to meeting up with Floyd at WW?

Ortiz - 1 fight - prior to that fought at 140

Marquez - NEVER - prior to that fought at 135 ONLY TWICE

Hatton - 1 fight - actually he fought twice at 140 before going up to 147 to fight Floyd! Hatton was a career 140 fighter.

hahahah now you are bringing 'weights' to the table. Does catchweights ring a bell?

De la Hoya fought at 150 before he fought at catchweight 147.
Cotto at catchweight 145; before 147
Margarito at 150; before 154
Mosley at 147; before 154
Marquez at 144; before 140

Don't argue about weights to Pacquiao because you will always end up losing.

[Und1sputed619]

I guess...........

All I know is that my boy Martinez's last 6 opponent's combined records were:

232-10-2........his last 3 opponents were: 66-1-0 coming into the fights with Sergio........why isn't he ranked number 1 P4P again?

Much love and respect to Martinez. The guy is a beast in the ring and great for the sport outside of the ring. But I think Martinez' team/promoters are going in the wrong direction willing to drain their fighter for a payday vs MAyweather or Pacquiao. If Martinez wants to climb the p4p list he should move up in weight like hes asking Manny and Floyd to do and start fighting the best @ 168.

[Ryannn]

that one win streak tho was a career defining win tho plus he was only 24 not 30+ like the other guys. its all about if they were on the upside/downside of their careers


just admit it bro Cotto was past his best going in the fight and so was Margarito and Mosley and we all knew it before they got in the ring against Manny

so you're saying the ortiz win is a better win than the cotto win?

[gapo]

No way,,, the cotto win is better. It told pacquiao he can fight bigger fighters.