In his last 3 fights Manny Pacquiao's opponents where 1-1-1 coming into the fight!

[DARKSEID]

You tool

ortiz was coming off a 1 win streak as well after getting his ass whooped by maidana and surviving vs peterson for a draw

lets not forget shane the 18 month lay off mosley who went almost 2 years with no fights at all before fighting floyd

you just owned the ts

[QADASHBANYAH]

Floyd gets absolutely no credit for beating bloated JMM and SSM, as SSM was old and only coming off a 2 win streak having lost to Cotto! So basically since his comeback from retirement he has done nothing to get any credit.

So let me get this **** straight... Shane gets whooped by mayweather it doesnt count, even though he interrupted floyd celebration after demolishing JMM and Pac fights him a year later a year older and its okay?????

GO SUCK **** SON....

[sammiza567]

[QUOTE=hugh grant;11371303]Why do Pac haters have to scrutinize with a magnifying glass every little detail in the hope of digging up dirt.

The names he fought are the biggest names in the sport, they fight the best so heaven forbid they may have one loss on their record.!!!! So what, they are still the biggest names, and the biggest names for a reason. So what that Cotto lost to margarito?


hahahahaha. your basically arguing for floyd. arum gives pac big name fighters who are washed up never primed fighters. the name doesnt matter its about how good they are when they fight. zomg tyson beat holmes who was old as ****. ali lost to bums near the end. look at rjj, lebedev and green are basically doing what pac did, but on a smalle scale. their ****** fans dont understand the complex sport of pugilism. just like 95% of pacman fans know damn well pac fighting someone was the first match they had seen. bias.

[DrewWoodside]

Yes it's a fact. Since his fight with David Diaz in June of 2008, Manny Pacquiao has not faced 1 opponent with coming off of a big win or with at least a 3 fight winning streak for that matter.

Here's the FACTS:
- Oscar De La Hoya: 1 fight winning streak vs. Steve Forbes after having been beat by Floyd Mayweather.
- Ricky Hatton: 2 fight winning streak after having been KO'd in 11 by Floyd.
- Miguel Cotto: 2 fight winning streak after having been brutally stopped by Margarito.
- Joshua Clottey: "0" fight win streak. Lost his previous fight by decision to Miguel Cotto.
- Antonio Margarito: 1 win streak vs. Roberto Garcia in Mexico in which he looked horrible. Previous to that he had been stopped by Shane Mosley 9 rounds.
- Shane Mosley: "0" fight win streak. Coming of a draw with Sergio Mora, and an 11 round to 1 beat down by Floyd Mayweather.

In his last 3 fights the "media's" P4P champ has fought Clottey coming off a LOSS, Margarito with a 1 fight winning streak, and Shane Mosley coming off a DRAW. Thats 1-1-1.

How is this justifiable for any boxer what so ever to even be considered among the p4p discussions?

It's because it's nothing but the P4P elite all fighting eachother in a veritable round robin. Whenever the best fight the best, fighters lose. If anything, considering the actual opposition. This is more an argument in support of Pacquiao's P4P status.

[Slip Stream]

Yes it's a fact. Since his fight with Juan Diaz in June of 2008, Manny Pacquiao has not faced 1 opponent with coming off of a big win or with at least a 3 fight winning streak for that matter.

Here's the FACTS:
- Oscar De La Hoya: 1 fight winning streak vs. Steve Forbes after having been beat by Floyd Mayweather.
- Ricky Hatton: 2 fight winning streak after having been KO'd in 11 by Floyd.
- Miguel Cotto: 2 fight winning streak after having been brutally stopped by Margarito.
- Joshua Clottey: "0" fight win streak. Lost his previous fight by decision to Miguel Cotto.
- Antonio Margarito: 1 win streak vs. Roberto Garcia in Mexico in which he looked horrible. Previous to that he had been stopped by Shane Mosley 9 rounds.
- Shane Mosley: "0" fight win streak. Coming of a draw with Sergio Mora, and an 11 round to 1 beat down by Floyd Mayweather.

In his last 3 fights the "media's" P4P champ has fought Clottey coming off a LOSS, Margarito with a 1 fight winning streak, and Shane Mosley coming off a DRAW. Thats 1-1-1.

How is this justifiable for any boxer what so ever to even be considered among the p4p discussions?

This is what makes Bob Arum so good at what he does. Arum knows that Pacquiao's fans would pay to watch him battle a bloody tampon, and there need not be any justification for the fight. While Floyd on the other hand has to justify all of his fights, they're usually dissected afterwards and his opponents deemed too small, too old, or too this or too that. Since Pacquiao can do no wrong it matters little to his legions of fans who he fights, if he's on roids, or if he cheats on his wife, all they see is Pacquiao the bad ass.

The guy comes off as almost childlike in the media; it's hard to damn someone that looks like that.

[Und1sputed619]

because hes running out of opponents to fight

His timing is suspect. Why didnt he call out Cotto before the Margarito fight? Or fight Margarito after his big win over Cotto? Or better yet take on Shane Mosley after his 9th round stoppage of Margarito?

[SyrianUser]

Floyd gets absolutely no credit for beating bloated JMM and SSM, as SSM was old and only coming off a 2 win streak having lost to Cotto! So basically since his comeback from retirement he has done nothing to get any credit.

PACQUIAO RESUME :


Cotto = Catchweight fight

Margarito = Catchweight fight

Marquez I and II = Controversy

De La Hoya = Weight drained + Mayweather beat De La Hoya at his real weight right after De La Hoya beat Ricardo Mayorga by KO in the 6th round

Erik Morales Rematches = Weight drained

Agapito Sánchez = Draw

Singsurat = Pacquiao lost by knock out

Torrecampo = Pacquiao lost by knock out

Erik Morales at his real weight = Pacquiao lost

Clottey = Nobody

Hatton = Lost his undefeated record against Mayweather

Mosley = Mosley was 39 years old + Mayweather already beat him right after Mosley beat Antonio Margarito by KO in 9th round

Marquez III = Fighting a 38 YEAR OLD LIGHTWEIGHT

[DARKSEID]

His timing is suspect. Why didnt he call out Cotto before the Margarito fight? Or fight Margarito after his big win over Cotto? Or better yet take on Shane Mosley after his 9th round stoppage of Margarito?

Because in 2008 he was still a lightweight?

and in 2009 he was fighting Hatton and De La Hoya.

Hatton is a legit fight for someone who's only had one fight at welterweight which he weighed 142 pounds for. Let's not forget NOBODY thought Pacquiao would beat De La Hoya and it turned out to be one of the biggest upsets of all time.

[Ryannn]

so, by this logic diaz is a better win than cotto/hatton/oscar?

cause he has a win streak?

jesus, you people are really grasping on straws here

[Ryannn]

oh, and hasn't floyd fought a guy coming of a 1 fight win streak?