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  • Pacquiao'd
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    #51
    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
    "peeleft:I'm tired of all this PED talk.

    I mean who gives a **** if Marquez was on roids or not, which I doubt anyway, because come Nov 12, Manny is going to beat the living **** outta him.
    yeah. since duckjuiceman was too chicken **** to fight JMM for the 3rd time when JMM was still prime or near prime

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    • FJRod
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      #52
      All these ****ing guys at some point have taken something, hell most people think steroids are all illegal well I'm a bodybuilder and I can tell u for a fact not all steroids are illegal. These guys are experts both with the juice and how to conceal non of these ****ing test work. Blood drawn has to be kept for yrs. in order to properly test since the actual drugs are more advanced than the tests. People arguing over this **** have no ****ing clue. I take my kids Clenbuterol and Albuterol all the time during my cutting season. Make em' all legal that way everyone can be on the sameplaying field. If anyone chooses not too, that's their prob.

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      • Everywhere
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        #53

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        • KTFO
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          #54
          Originally posted by Osirus022
          It's funny how Pacquiao is from Philippines aka steriod birth, and now they are trying to turn everything on Marquez that he is using roids, smh. Now if he wins he is juicing, yet he won both of his last fights wit Pac. I don't understand
          Slow your roll there homie, what does the Philippines have to do with steroid birth? I'm not Filipino or from there but why the Philippines? There are no major athletics that compete on a world level there, no major athletes hail from there besides Pac, and how many athletes do they send to the Olympics? Maybe a dozen at most. Who do they sell black market steroids to? This is what happens when you listen to the bull**** people toss around on this site. Here's a handfull of boxers that have admitted to taking P.E.D's, been suspended/stripped for failed test results: Vitali Klitscho, Frans Botha, Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Shane Mosley, Sadam Ali, Fernando Vargas, Orlando Salido, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Any Filipinos on this list? Has Pacquiao failed any tests yet? Most of these fighters like Vargas, Toney, Salido, etc all failed State Athletic Commissioned testing that experts like you and Mayweather deem inadequate. And if you knew your head from your a** you would know that Mexico and Canada are where people go to get prescription meds and peds on the dL.

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          • Taaj Manzoor
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            #55
            JMM needs to even up the playing field.

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            • igami07
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              #56
              Originally posted by SyrianUser
              Its ok for those who believe that he is on steroids and those who dont believe it , being ****** is believing that not only BLOOD TESTS MAKE PACQUIAO WEAK BUT HE IS ALSO SCARED OF NEEDLES .
              ^^ this.... there's is no point arguing with this kind of people..or rather beware arguing with this kind of people they can drag you down in their level of ******ity.. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!! they grow!!

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              • JibbaJabber
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                #57
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                By Jake Donovan - If only Manny Pacquiao could demand that Juan Manuel Marquez take the test before stepping into the ring with the best.

                For now, judgment needs to be reserved. However, the revelation of convicted steroid dealer-turned-government cooperator Angel Heredia – now known as Angel Hernandez – joining Juan Manuel Marquez’ camp in preparation for the Mexican’s third crack at an official win over Pacquaio can’t possibly fly under the radar.

                News first caught the attention of many in the industry after scanning the Twitter page of BALCO co-founder Victor Conte, who of course is no stranger to doping scandals. Conte revealed through tweets that the man identified as “Angel Hernandez” in Episode 2 of 24/7 Pacquiao/Marquez is in fact Heredia, who testified in 2008 against former Olympic coach Trevor Graham as a cooperating witness.

                Heredia became the government’s star witness three years prior when he was linked to money laundering and drug trafficking. His credibility was called into question, but all of his information proved to check out, leading to the discovery of PED use by several notable athletes and Olympic medalists, including Marion Jones and Maurice Greene.

                Then 33 years old, Heredia agreed to testify even before knowing what he would get in return. Prosecutors had assisted him with his Visa (Heredia is a Mexican citizen), but never outright promised full immunity in exchange for his court testimony.

                When all was said and done, Heredia never served a day in prison for his role in a scandal that rocked the sports world. He was sparsely heard from since that trial, and certainly an unknown entity in the boxing world. [Click Here To Read More]
                the article has a typo. it's andre berto not andre ward..

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                • igami07
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by micky1971
                  if juan manuel is only a blown up lightweight then, what is pacman?
                  a blown up flyweight? i just dont understand how pacman can physically be bigger than anything above a super featherweight.
                  50 odd fights and getting better with each fight? more power,speed,reflex????
                  surely not possible with just good nutrion, boxing training and age going against him.
                  hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
                  my take on juan manuel and this suspect chemist is one of a mind game.
                  it wouldnt surprise me if floyd did not recommend this move as a tactic into drawing pacman into asking for dope testing.
                  its a very good move either way as long as its cosher.
                  i do not believe for a second that juan manuel would ever resort to bad sportsmanship in this way at all.
                  i hope jmm is victorious.
                  roach really does have something to worry about now.
                  dude how old are you? what's your weight when your just 16 years old? what's your weight now?
                  does your logic includes that people won't gain weight when they are growing of age?

                  gaining weight not possible with nutrition? where did you hear that? are you aware of the grow foods that's been teach in the elementary school? if not you should go to a doctor you need for help.. you have a problem..

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                  • fceeviper
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Team Vitaminas
                    Wait a fuckin' minute! Donaire trains with Conte the main PEDS manufacture , Pacquiao goes from a weak one handed fighter to training with Ariza and take punches from a middleweight and we are told its all natural an they're givin the benefit of the doubt? Now Marquez is seen with a ex-dealer , not a manufacture but a distributer and he needs to be tested? Fuck lol what the fucks going on here!
                    Donaire is a PED user as well then!

                    Originally posted by DAN916
                    If Manny was smart he would ask for olympic style testing...
                    ..and vise versa!

                    Originally posted by Ugh!
                    oh great, now if marquez is even slightly competitive vs the shorter pacquiao it's gonna be because of roids and everyone is gonna use that as an example of how steroids are miracle drugs

                    ****in great
                    That's what I was thinking as well.

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                    • JibbaJabber
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by boxinger
                      Roid Rage!
                      your girl is on roids.. everytime i place my love muscle on her tastebuds..

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