When did pac prime stage started?

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  • Bombs
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    #11
    The real question is when it is going to end?? If ever? The more years pass the more you realize how special he is. He is not showing any signs of slowing down he is actually getting more powerful and more faster with each fight. Imagine him in 5 years :/

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    • Everywhere
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      #12
      Yes, I believe he peaked already back then. Since then I believe he has been fighting many staged fights, against people there to merely cash checks. I cite the changes in his training going from looking like legit tough training, to basically being exhibitions of "look how fast and strong and he destroy de sparring partners"...if a fighter is blowing sparring partners away, it generally would mean he needs better ones. That they are content with him just blowing inferior partners out of the water tells me that they don't take this upcoming fight seriously at all. If they don't see it as a legitimate test, why should any of us?

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      • Twako
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        #13
        pac is past prime as soon as he got outboxed by morales in their first fight. that's NSB logic right? same w/ cotto? hatton? lol.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Twako
          pac is past prime as soon as he got outboxed by morales in their first fight. that's NSB logic right? same w/ cotto? hatton? lol.
          no he was past his prime when he got ko'd by torrecampos. Getting ko'd by medgoen singsurat cemented the end of his career. he is merely a shell of his former self since that fight.

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            Originally posted by Everywhere
            Yes, I believe he peaked already back then. Since then I believe he has been fighting many staged fights, against people there to merely cash checks. I cite the changes in his training going from looking like legit tough training, to basically being exhibitions of "look how fast and strong and he destroy de sparring partners"...if a fighter is blowing sparring partners away, it generally would mean he needs better ones. That they are content with him just blowing inferior partners out of the water tells me that they don't take this upcoming fight seriously at all. If they don't see it as a legitimate test, why should any of us?
            im not sure about ur belief bra
            is marquez and mosley in house fighters?
            and if those are staged fight u couldnt see guys having an orbital eye damage just to stage a fight or a broken bloody face cotto,

            youll probably see a sucker punch on a staged fight , or a fighter who gassed out after 2 rounds?, not wanting to bring floyd in this thread but have u ever think floyd fits on your belief more because his been fighting GoldenBoyFighters?

            just saying

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            • The_Golden_Goy
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              #16
              It was after he Diaz fight when Pacquiao fought in his physical and technical prowess prime. It is clear since then Pacman has been a better fighter, in better condition and mentally stronger or as strong.

              The problem is, since then it hasnt been his prime in terms of opposition fought. Yes its an achievement for a former flyweight to be beating up on WW's, but for me personally, I'd say Pacquiaos prime in terms of tough fights back to back was in the 130 and below years when he fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales

              just my opinion, feel free to disagree

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              • The_Golden_Goy
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bombs
                The real question is when it is going to end?? If ever? The more years pass the more you realize how special he is. He is not showing any signs of slowing down he is actually getting more powerful and more faster with each fight. Imagine him in 5 years :/
                in 5 years time Pac will have retired, but ill entertain your theory that he will be still be fighting in half a decade.

                The WW landscape will have changed, the yunger guys will be established champions and there is no way a 37 year old Pac will be able to hang with guys in their physical prime and at the top of their game

                I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #18
                  Pac was already starting to improve his skills by the second Morales fight. I don't expect him to be much better skill wise when he fights JMM in a few weeks. I think he reached his physical prime in the Diaz, Hatton fights though. That's the difference.

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                  • iNDOLiFER
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Everywhere
                    What are you talking about? Everything I said has to do with the topic. He peaked before 130...now he is just riding his popularity to political power and to his bank account...you don't have to agree with my reasoning as to why he is likely past it, but it certainly is relevant to your topic.
                    How is that possible? He was still one dimensional in the lower weight. To me pac's prime was right after Diaz going into the Oscar fight. That's when u really see the changes compare to when he was still at the lower weight.

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                    • Double_L
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                      #20
                      From the Diaz to the De La Hoya fight (summer-winter 2008 I believe) he hit his physical prime.

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