Does anyone atually believe James Toney is gonna beat Lebedev?

[Da7thsign]

I believe Toney will school Lebedev.. He's too slick and experienced to get beat by someone that basic.

[drh]

Not just his last fight. Toney hasn't looked good in years, since the first Sam Peter fight at least. He got whooped in the second Peter fight, and he's never been the same. SD with somebody named Danny Batchelder in a fight most people thought he lost, SD with Fres Oquendo in a fight most people thought he lost. Got stunned by total bum Matt Greer in the first round of their fight and hurt badly. Got blown out in UFC by old man Randy Couture. Looked crappy in UD win against total bum Damon Reed, who was knocked out by Deontay Wilder in two rounds in his next fight.

Now the Eli Seckbach videos show Toney glassy-eyed, drooling and slurring, and he looks slow and stunned in sparring.

Toney is in hock to the IRS which is why he's fighting in Russia (when he hates flying). It's why he embarrassed boxing with his UFC debacle, and why he was going to do it again with Ken Shamrock (who had no intention of following through).

Toney is really pitiful. That's the reality. The people who think he's still the guy who fought Jirov are as delusional as Toney himself.

James Toney is my all-time favourite fighter, not even anyone near him... I even bet on him against randy couture

BUT, all I see is negatives in this leadup. I don't know what is worse? The early stages of brain damage (he admits to that in a an espn interview conducted in 2008, bad memory, etc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiQXogpXXDs), his recent performances in the ring, or the massive weight drop that yes will improve his balance but will definitely weaken him.

Like I said, he is my all-time favourite, but I'm hoping he gets through this OK.

[sugersean15]

i will don't worry

[Larry the boss]

How is he out of shape when he dropped 30 plus pounds?

[sugersean15]

How is he out of shape when he dropped 30 plus pounds?

actually he will have dropped 57lbs which will really help him ................WAR TONEY

[Pugilistic™]

Older fighters like Toney who lose alot of weight don't tend to do so well once they actually get in the ring (Chris Byrd being a recent example).

Byrd like Toney looked in great shape but once he was in the ring had no energy, no punch resistance and overall was just terrible.

Lebedev is an average fighter but i see him clearly beating Toney at this point.

Toney will have his moments but will be outworked and overall will look way past it ( which he is).

[boxing_omega]

james toney is not broke.lol james toney recently got paid 500,000 for the ufc deal.james toney fights because he is a fighter. literally a living legend.his training regime the last decade for fights is strictly sparring and speedbag.he states alot that he isent a bag beater he;sna fighter.and traditionally like the old school sayin he is right,.(how does a surgeon get better at surgery,um practcing surgery,how does a boxer get better at fighting sparring.

[Rocky Rode]

I haven't seen the Lebedev-RJJ fight but, according to the score cards, Lebedev would've won that fight by Split Decision had it gone the distance. I don't know how accurate they were but if the fight was close then it wouldn't shock me to see Toney upset. If RJJ who is past it can give him troubles, then I could see a guy like Toney upset him.

[BrotherDudeJack]

Toney's gonna tax that ass. Who wants to bet?

[Forza]

How is he out of shape when he dropped 30 plus pounds?

5'9 natural middle weight thats like 42 years old. He's just less fat.