Pacquiao-Martinez Official?

[SyrianKid]

When will this be made official ?


Pacquiao said : If Sergio Martinez Can Make 147, I'll Fight Him .



So basically Pacquiao will only have the balls to fight Sergio Martinez if Martinez is weight drained to 147



PACQUIAO VS COTTO = CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT


PACQUIAO VS MARGARITO = CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT


PACQUIAO VS DE LA HOYA = DE LA HOYA WEIGHT DRAINED


PACQUIAO VS MORALES REMATCHES = ERIK MORALES WEIGHT DRAINED




De la Hoya claims Pacquiao beats weight-drained foes :



MANILA, Philippines – Former boxing great Oscar de la Hoya claimed the reason why Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao has been successful in his last fights is that he keeps on beating his opponents through the weighing scale. De la Hoya, who was forced by Pacquiao to quit after an 8-round beating in 2008, made the claim while pushing again for a third fight between the Filipino boxer and Mexican champion Juan Manuel Marquez.
"For me, Juan Manuel won the first two fights and he's the only one who succeeded in creating problems for Pacquiao, a fighter who has always forced his opponents, including myself, to lose weight and leave everything on the scale," De la Hoya said in Boxing Scene.com.
De la Hoya, who owns majority of Golden Boy Promotions (GBP), claims Pacquiao has always forced his opponents to drop down to uncomfortable weights to make the fights.
In their 2008 fight, De la Hoya worked hard to make the 147-pound limit just to face Pacquiao. This, he claims, was the reason he lost the bout.
De la Hoya said Pacquiao should at least give way this time by giving Marquez the third fight somewhere between 142 to 144 pounds.



http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12...t-drained-foes

[Phenom]

I promise you Manny won't fight him at 147 even if Martinez said he will people need to understand and accept that Manny WILL NOT fight an oppent who they (ARUM and ROACH) view as a threat at 147


they refused to fight Mosley until he showed signs of decline and they refused to fight the Ortiz vs Berto winner

[Pocket Dogs!]

De la Hoya chose the weight of 147 against Pac. What was Pac going to do? Go up THREE weight classes to fight Oscar? I agree on the others though.

I'll only give Pac or Floyd credit is if they fight Martinez at 154. No ifs, ands, or buts. Martinez has even said that he'll go down to 150 but he's going to be uncomfortable doing it. IMO Martinez is just at an unfortunate spot where he's too big for the welterweights and too small for the super middleweights.

[keehlnate]

Don't believe anything Oscar de la Hoya said. The last time I checked he is high sniffing substance.

As for fighting Martinez at 147? Pacquiao can't even make 150 lbs so there is no point for him to go to Martinez territory. He will be killed. So if Martinez wants a fight then he is the one who should go down.

Unless you are a sadistic fan who wants Pacquiao to fight a giant Martinez, well it's not gonna happen. Pacquiao is no monster. Martinez, go down to 147, then we have a fight.

[Pacroid]

Dont be a ***** pac you fought Margarito at 154.

[Pocket Dogs!]

Dont be a ***** pac you fought Margarito at 154.

He fought Margarito at a catchweight of 150 for a meaningless belt.

[RichardP]

people just stealing my threads mang, renaming them

[SyrianKid]

Manny Pacquiao Admits Catch-Weight Is Crucial To Outcome With Miguel Cotto
By Frank Lotierzo



This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?

A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

Miguel Cotto has been weighing in between 146 and 147 since he outgrew the junior welterweight division. That's a testament indicating making the 147 pound limit isn't easy for him and it requires a lot just for him to do that.

Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.

[edgarg]

When will this be made official ?


Pacquiao said : If Sergio Martinez Can Make 147, I'll Fight Him .



So basically Pacquiao will only have the balls to fight Sergio Martinez if Martinez is weight drained to 147



PACQUIAO VS COTTO = CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT


PACQUIAO VS MARGARITO = CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT


PACQUIAO VS DE LA HOYA = DE LA HOYA WEIGHT DRAINED


PACQUIAO VS MORALES REMATCHES = ERIK MORALES WEIGHT DRAINED




De la Hoya claims Pacquiao beats weight-drained foes :



MANILA, Philippines – Former boxing great Oscar de la Hoya claimed the reason why Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao has been successful in his last fights is that he keeps on beating his opponents through the weighing scale. De la Hoya, who was forced by Pacquiao to quit after an 8-round beating in 2008, made the claim while pushing again for a third fight between the Filipino boxer and Mexican champion Juan Manuel Marquez.
"For me, Juan Manuel won the first two fights and he's the only one who succeeded in creating problems for Pacquiao, a fighter who has always forced his opponents, including myself, to lose weight and leave everything on the scale," De la Hoya said in Boxing Scene.com.
De la Hoya, who owns majority of Golden Boy Promotions (GBP), claims Pacquiao has always forced his opponents to drop down to uncomfortable weights to make the fights.
In their 2008 fight, De la Hoya worked hard to make the 147-pound limit just to face Pacquiao. This, he claims, was the reason he lost the bout.
De la Hoya said Pacquiao should at least give way this time by giving Marquez the third fight somewhere between 142 to 144 pounds.



http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12...t-drained-foes

Oscar is a typical promoting liar in his efort to promote the Marquez fight. MannyP is a natural 130 lber who chose to put on muscle, eat 5-6 mels a day to keep up weight and weighs in and rehydrate to usually 144. Always rehydrates to under 150, which is all water so that he has no bodily draining problems. His opponents all re-eat and drink lots and weigh in at well over 160 on fight night. Marquez will be the first opponent who is around MannyP's natural weight for years.

[keehlnate]

If you want a Pacquiao fight, then go to his territory. His 8th division title is his last, so he won't go up anymore. Even though Martinez is the #3 P4P he can't draw unless he is paired with Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is the P4P King. He won't bow down to you.