John Scully: Mayweather Is Special, He beats Pacquiao..

[Vasyl’s dad]

Look in the mirror.

You haven't said shit about why you think Manny will be able to do anything.

It is boxing so **** happens, Manny has a chance but he literally has to be perfect and Floyd probably has to be off his game a bit. Those are long odds he is facing.


This fight is a terrible proposition for Manny, I am sorry I feel Floyd will beat him badly but I am just saying what I believe will play out. Manny is a great fighter and he won't quit so Floyd will have to be on his game but if both fight their best fight I can't see anything other than Floyd wrecking Manny

Everything I am saying is really simple, basic stuff looking into it to far doesn't allow you to see the forest through the trees~

Originally Posted by Lean On Me

Looking back at past Floyd fights, I seen Corley and Judah stun/knock down Floyd with the right hand. Manny, in the fighters hes knocked down in the past few years, Hatton, Cotto and Shane, started the knock down with a combo that began with the right hand.

Are you seriously going to sit here and say that Demarcus Corley and Zab Judah can't rock and knock Floyd off balance with just the right hand,

but Manny Pacquiao who has started his best combos with right hands that produced knockdowns, can't?

You didn't read that?

I know you responded to that post, so you had to have read it,

or did you?

[WESS]

No, I didn't suggest that.

I simply said that Manny was able to overcome the size advantage and still land plenty of shots.

The only thing far fetched, is you making up things I never mentioned.

Manny has shorter arms than Mosley, Margarito and Clottey. Guess what?

He had no problems getting within range on any of those larger and longer armed opponents.

You are saying that just because Manny was able to be successful vs Mosley, Margarito and Clottey ("larger and longer armed opponents") he would vs Mayweather.

You are comparing them to Mayweather. Is this really hard for you to understand?

[The Gambler1981]

Now I've heard it all.

Manny cannot get into range to do damage.

Even though he has done it to his last three opponents, who were bigger in size, and arm length.


But he can't get into range.

Those guys are nothing like Floyd Mayweather~ JMM is nothing like Floyd Mayweather.

Really is that your response, I don't talk to you for a year and you are still the exact same. It comes back so quickly why I don't bother to talk to you it is pointless.

[The Gambler1981]

You didn't read that?

I know you responded to that post, so you had to have read it,

or did you?

That really isn't a reason, how is he going to land those shots consistently. And I specifically stated why that point is meaningless.

Manny can't do what they did, not because he isn't good enough because he doesn't have the range to.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You are saying that just because Manny was able to be successful vs Mosley, Margarito and Clottey ("larger and longer armed opponents") he would vs Mayweather.

You are comparing them to Mayweather. Is this really hard for you to understand?

Don't try to be like Floyd and move your goalposts.

Are you really comparing Mayweather's style to that of Mosley, Margarito and Clottey?

I didn't compare their style, at all. Only their length. Is it a comparison to Floyd?


In their bodily attributes only.


You implied I was comparing styles, which I clearly didn't.

Now buzz off.

[Vasyl’s dad]

That really isn't a reason, how is he going to land those shots consistently. And I specifically stated why that point is meaningless.

Manny can't do what they did, not because he isn't good enough because he doesn't have the range to.

Ok, Floyd wins, 1st round KO.

Out to watch Jets game.

[The Gambler1981]

Ok, Floyd wins, 1st round KO.

Out to watch Jets game.

Feel however you want, but if you want to talk down what I say at least come strong with good reasoning.

I know that is asking a lot, but no hard feelings have fun watching the game.

[WESS]

Don't try to be like Floyd and move your goalposts.



I didn't compare their style, at all. Only their length. Is it a comparison to Floyd?

In their bodily attributes only.

You implied I was comparing styles, which I clearly didn't.

Now buzz off.

Comparing Mosley, Clottey and Margarito's bodily parts to Floyd's?

What does "bodily attributes" have to do with Pac actually being able to hit Floyd like Mosley, Clottey and Margarito who in fact have competently different styles (that make fights)?

At the end of the day you are still "comparing" them to Floyd which was my point. It's worse that you resulted to comparing "bodily attributes" of them to Floyd as if that means anything at all.

It's weak.

[Brother Jay]

^ This right here is one of the most intelligent metaphors used for this fight. Very well said my friend. Manny has all the come forward power in the world but that wont mean much against a defensive mastermind like Floyd. Given Floyd's decent pop to his punches alongside his excellent timing and handspeed, I think Manny is going to be careful rushing in at him the way he has done to most fighters. This will be like the second Marquez fight but Mayweather won't go down and he'll land at a more accurate rate than Marquez did.

Thanks for the compliment!

But I think that it will be worse for Pacquiao against Floyd much more so than it was against Marquez II.

Why?

Because even though Marquez has elite skills, he has Mexican pride that leads him to want to exchange even when its to his disadvantage. Marquez is easily led into exchanges because he feels that he's defending more than just his title by fighting that way.

Floyd has no such hang ups. He is the most intelligent fighter in decades. He controls the tempo and the distance of a fight. When a fighter tries to charge forward and impose size or strength, it looks like Mayweather/Ortiz where the other guy gets frustrated trying to land and fouls.

Pacquiao won't have a dance partner. He will be alone in the jungle while the hunter snipes at him from safe positions.

That .. is the sweet science.

[viperz007]

everyone can say what they like

but

floyd is a puzzy

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