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  • Nate S.
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bombs
    Hopkins is garbage. He's always relied on dirty tactics to win fights, he can't win without excessive clinching, headbutts and hugging. And when things are not going his way he starts acting like he's hurt to buy time or buy his way out of a fight. Hopkins is no hall of a famer. He'll make it just for making it into a ring at 46 but he won't be remembered as a true hall of famer or legend by anyone but his 4 worldwide fans.
    He didn't just "Make it into the ring at 46" It's not like he got in the ring for some amateur fight which at age 46 would still be commendable, he beat a legit light heavyweight world champion 18 years younger than him, making history. Your attempt to downplay that accomplishment is pathetic.

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    • flint
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      #42
      hopkins has always been a dirty fighter but chad dawson is really the one that mentally weak.he's always been that way. just because and old hopkins body can't handle that kind of fall means he's weak.he's just old.but chad don't ever talk up the gangster code when you are soft as a pillow.

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      • Brother Jay
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        #43
        Originally posted by TheGreatA
        I can understand being angered at the result but I do hope he realizes that he fought a 46 year old man who would have put up an entirely different fight a decade ago.
        I disagree. Hopkins hasn't changed much. Maybe his energy level.

        But his style and approach are absolutely the same. Hopkins didn't hide out at 160lbs for well over a decade for nothing. He waited for smaller guys to come up to shine over them.

        Once Hopkins finally came up in weight we saw that he was very beatable. He knew it all along though as BHOP debuted at LHW and got beaten, then took years off to revamp himself as a MW.

        The only real credit that BHOP ever deserved is when he faced Taylor, Tarver Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik Pascal and Dawson. He waited until the end of his career to take real chances so that if he lost, people could blame it on his age and not the fact that he would have lost to those guys had he faced them earlier.

        That's the real situation.

        Hopkins could have faced many great fighters in his career early on. Instead, he hid out for over a decade in a talentless division defending only one belt for the majority of his so-called record breaking title defense streak. Monzon was the undisputed champion when he made that record. Hopkins was NOT.

        There are simply too many uneducated fans that place too much value on what writers and pundits say. BHOP is a solid fighter with incredible longevity, but the bulk of his legacy will have to do with taking chances late on in his career when he stood to lose nothing.

        Had Hopkins done this 10-15 years ago he would be rated and regarded with much more reverence in the end.

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        • Heru
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          #44
          Originally posted by flint
          hopkins has always been a dirty fighter but chad dawson is really the one that mentally weak.he's always been that way. just because and old hopkins body can't handle that kind of fall means he's weak.he's just old.but chad don't ever talk up the gangster code when you are soft as a pillow.
          How can someone who gets up from a knockdown and being hurt against a top 5 fighter in the world (not region, province, state, city, township, suburb, neighborhood) and goes on to win be considered menatally weak?

          How can someone who survived getting hurt several times against a relentless top 5 fighter in the world and still won be considered mentally weak?

          Dawson is engaging in hyperbole and you are doing the same because neither fighter is mentally weak inside or outside the ring. You simply don't get to the level they're at by being mentally weak.

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          • Brother Jay
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            #45
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE
            How can someone who gets up from a knockdown and being hurt against a top 5 fighter in the world (not region, province, state, city, township, suburb, neighborhood) and goes on to win be considered menatally weak?

            How can someone who survived getting hurt several times against a relentless top 5 fighter in the world and still won be considered mentally weak?

            Dawson is engaging in hyperbole and you are doing the same because neither fighter is mentally weak inside or outside the ring. You simply don't get to the level they're at by being mentally weak.
            You are correct Flint. Dawson's flaw has always been that he has been mentally weak. the kid has all the tools, the talent and world class training. He cannot keep his eyes on the prize many times and that lull in concentration is usually what allows other boxers to do as well against him as they manage to.

            See: Dawson vs Pascal

            Pascal does not have the skills to outbox Dawson. He never did. Chad simply checked out mentally for the majority of the fight, and once his corner finally got him to wake up, he made an impressive rally that was too little, too late.

            Honing a killer instinct would do wonders for Dawson. Being smart and cool should still remain his priority, but once he smells blood he should focus on becoming an effective finisher.

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            • TheGreatA
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              #46
              Originally posted by Brother Jay
              I disagree. Hopkins hasn't changed much. Maybe his energy level.

              But his style and approach are absolutely the same. Hopkins didn't hide out at 160lbs for well over a decade for nothing. He waited for smaller guys to come up to shine over them.

              Once Hopkins finally came up in weight we saw that he was very beatable. He knew it all along though as BHOP debuted at LHW and got beaten, then took years off to revamp himself as a MW.

              The only real credit that BHOP ever deserved is when he faced Taylor, Tarver Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik Pascal and Dawson. He waited until the end of his career to take real chances so that if he lost, people could blame it on his age and not the fact that he would have lost to those guys had he faced them earlier.

              That's the real situation.

              Hopkins could have faced many great fighters in his career early on. Instead, he hid out for over a decade in a talentless division defending only one belt for the majority of his so-called record breaking title defense streak. Monzon was the undisputed champion when he made that record. Hopkins was NOT.

              There are simply too many uneducated fans that place too much value on what writers and pundits say. BHOP is a solid fighter with incredible longevity, but the bulk of his legacy will have to do with taking chances late on in his career when he stood to lose nothing.

              Had Hopkins done this 10-15 years ago he would be rated and regarded with much more reverence in the end.

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              • EL ANIMAL
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                #47
                this was by far the most DISGUSTING call i have ever seen in my life in a boxing match. ever!!!.
                not even the damm rules fight this outcome. this was a damm no contest period!!!!
                how does someone beat the champ by TKO and take the tittle by a shoulder shove???? THATS NOT EVEN THE RULES!!!!!
                hopkins fan or not its disgusting.

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                • cjun
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                  #48
                  First of all, I'll watch a rematch if it's free on HBO.

                  Dawson needs to STFU. He didn't prove anything last night and needs to stop acting as he knocked Hopkins out or dominated him. He's delusional if he thinks that "TKO" did anything but leave him in the same place he was before the fight.

                  I've been a fan of BHop for years, but I think karma bit him in the ass last night. That doesn't make it right, but everyone knows how he tends to pull that stuff in fights. He doesn't have anything left to prove and should simply retire, if he can't get the return bout. The only selling point in that fight would be the controversy of the first one because neither of these guys are as exciting as so many other match ups that can be made.

                  I'd much rather see Dawson and Pascal II anyway.

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                  • apunchnotseen
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                    #49
                    I have no love for Hopkins or Dawson, don't care for a rematch, didn't like the matchup to begin with. The real problem is the officiating at this level, Pat Russell blew this fight

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                    • peter stark
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                      #50
                      What is truly disgusting is the way Hopkins quit. He didn't hurt anything
                      the way he fell.
                      Fact is, he noticed how quickly Dawson came out for the first round and how intent he was. Hopkins knew that there was no intimidation possible here,
                      so he quit before he took the beating that he knew was coming.
                      Hopkins should n't be allowed to fight anymore.

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