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hopkins has always been a dirty fighter but chad dawson is really the one that mentally weak.he's always been that way. just because and old hopkins body can't handle that kind of fall means he's weak.he's just old.but chad don't ever talk up the gangster code when you are soft as a pillow.
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Originally posted by TheGreatA View PostI can understand being angered at the result but I do hope he realizes that he fought a 46 year old man who would have put up an entirely different fight a decade ago.
But his style and approach are absolutely the same. Hopkins didn't hide out at 160lbs for well over a decade for nothing. He waited for smaller guys to come up to shine over them.
Once Hopkins finally came up in weight we saw that he was very beatable. He knew it all along though as BHOP debuted at LHW and got beaten, then took years off to revamp himself as a MW.
The only real credit that BHOP ever deserved is when he faced Taylor, Tarver Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik Pascal and Dawson. He waited until the end of his career to take real chances so that if he lost, people could blame it on his age and not the fact that he would have lost to those guys had he faced them earlier.
That's the real situation.
Hopkins could have faced many great fighters in his career early on. Instead, he hid out for over a decade in a talentless division defending only one belt for the majority of his so-called record breaking title defense streak. Monzon was the undisputed champion when he made that record. Hopkins was NOT.
There are simply too many uneducated fans that place too much value on what writers and pundits say. BHOP is a solid fighter with incredible longevity, but the bulk of his legacy will have to do with taking chances late on in his career when he stood to lose nothing.
Had Hopkins done this 10-15 years ago he would be rated and regarded with much more reverence in the end.
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Originally posted by flint View Posthopkins has always been a dirty fighter but chad dawson is really the one that mentally weak.he's always been that way. just because and old hopkins body can't handle that kind of fall means he's weak.he's just old.but chad don't ever talk up the gangster code when you are soft as a pillow.
How can someone who survived getting hurt several times against a relentless top 5 fighter in the world and still won be considered mentally weak?
Dawson is engaging in hyperbole and you are doing the same because neither fighter is mentally weak inside or outside the ring. You simply don't get to the level they're at by being mentally weak.
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Originally posted by QUELOQUE View PostHow can someone who gets up from a knockdown and being hurt against a top 5 fighter in the world (not region, province, state, city, township, suburb, neighborhood) and goes on to win be considered menatally weak?
How can someone who survived getting hurt several times against a relentless top 5 fighter in the world and still won be considered mentally weak?
Dawson is engaging in hyperbole and you are doing the same because neither fighter is mentally weak inside or outside the ring. You simply don't get to the level they're at by being mentally weak.
See: Dawson vs Pascal
Pascal does not have the skills to outbox Dawson. He never did. Chad simply checked out mentally for the majority of the fight, and once his corner finally got him to wake up, he made an impressive rally that was too little, too late.
Honing a killer instinct would do wonders for Dawson. Being smart and cool should still remain his priority, but once he smells blood he should focus on becoming an effective finisher.
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View PostI disagree. Hopkins hasn't changed much. Maybe his energy level.
But his style and approach are absolutely the same. Hopkins didn't hide out at 160lbs for well over a decade for nothing. He waited for smaller guys to come up to shine over them.
Once Hopkins finally came up in weight we saw that he was very beatable. He knew it all along though as BHOP debuted at LHW and got beaten, then took years off to revamp himself as a MW.
The only real credit that BHOP ever deserved is when he faced Taylor, Tarver Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik Pascal and Dawson. He waited until the end of his career to take real chances so that if he lost, people could blame it on his age and not the fact that he would have lost to those guys had he faced them earlier.
That's the real situation.
Hopkins could have faced many great fighters in his career early on. Instead, he hid out for over a decade in a talentless division defending only one belt for the majority of his so-called record breaking title defense streak. Monzon was the undisputed champion when he made that record. Hopkins was NOT.
There are simply too many uneducated fans that place too much value on what writers and pundits say. BHOP is a solid fighter with incredible longevity, but the bulk of his legacy will have to do with taking chances late on in his career when he stood to lose nothing.
Had Hopkins done this 10-15 years ago he would be rated and regarded with much more reverence in the end.
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this was by far the most DISGUSTING call i have ever seen in my life in a boxing match. ever!!!.
not even the damm rules fight this outcome. this was a damm no contest period!!!!
how does someone beat the champ by TKO and take the tittle by a shoulder shove???? THATS NOT EVEN THE RULES!!!!!
hopkins fan or not its disgusting.
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First of all, I'll watch a rematch if it's free on HBO.
Dawson needs to STFU. He didn't prove anything last night and needs to stop acting as he knocked Hopkins out or dominated him. He's delusional if he thinks that "TKO" did anything but leave him in the same place he was before the fight.
I've been a fan of BHop for years, but I think karma bit him in the ass last night. That doesn't make it right, but everyone knows how he tends to pull that stuff in fights. He doesn't have anything left to prove and should simply retire, if he can't get the return bout. The only selling point in that fight would be the controversy of the first one because neither of these guys are as exciting as so many other match ups that can be made.
I'd much rather see Dawson and Pascal II anyway.
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I have no love for Hopkins or Dawson, don't care for a rematch, didn't like the matchup to begin with. The real problem is the officiating at this level, Pat Russell blew this fight
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What is truly disgusting is the way Hopkins quit. He didn't hurt anything
the way he fell.
Fact is, he noticed how quickly Dawson came out for the first round and how intent he was. Hopkins knew that there was no intimidation possible here,
so he quit before he took the beating that he knew was coming.
Hopkins should n't be allowed to fight anymore.
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