Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Less Compassion For Marquez, It's Personal!

[ronnie_N.]

Well, I certainly have more than Manny " padded " Pacquiao.....

Truly great fighters always leave more answers than questions, and yet Pacquiao has left more questions than answers.

Questions like.....

* Could Pac have beaten Zahir Raheem, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten JMM in a rematch at 130, cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac have beaten a top lightweight, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a top jww, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Hoya, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Hoya at 154, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Cotto, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Cotto at 147, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Margarito, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Margarito at 154, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Margarito with 10oz gloves, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a Clottey that fought back, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a genuine jmw, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Mosley, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a past-prime Mosley when he first had the chance back when Shane was ranked the #1 welter, cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac have beaten Ortiz (a guy who laid hands on him in sparring - Roach named that session as "the best sparring ever", a guy who beat a fighter who Arum admitted was on Pac's own shortlist, and a guy who was ranked higher than any welter Pac has ever fought), cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac beat JMM now at 140 (Pac's best weight, according to Manny), cuz he will not allow that to happen, 145lbs (a weight that Manny has never made himself ) was the deal-breaker? *** me, that is absurd.

* Could Pac have beaten Martinez for that vacant WBC title, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac beat Martinez at 150 now ("I will fight anyone at 150" ~ Manny Pacquiao), cuz he dont want none? Pac? Manny? Where'd that guy go?

* Could Pac beat Mayweather, cuz he hasnt?

* Could Pac pass Olympic Style Drug Testing, cuz he dont want none?

Jeez dude, that is one helluva shopping list full of unanswered questions about a supposedly great fighter

I mean, that list is not complete either, **** we can go right back to fly, could Pac have beaten Too Sharp? Why didnt that fight happen, just like at lw, jww, and welter?

WTF ?

Surely that cant be right, because Pacquiao certainly had not achieved traditional greatness before the highly controversial win/loss to Marquez?

Many fighters achieved greatness by fighting under the old divisional system, back when there was only one champion, using same day weigh-in's, and they did it by fighting as the smaller man..... Pacquiao has certainly never done anything like that.

Are you sure that you arent just drinking the kool-aid dude ?

Because it is inconceivable that a truly great fighter could have a list of unanswered questions hanging over his head that happens to be longer than his list of achievements?

Give yourself an uppercut for being so naive, Pac is a terrific fighter, and likely a great guy, but when Bob Arum admitted that all of the people who paid to watch Pac fight Margarito Mosley and Marquez knew that those guys didnt stand a chance, and that Manny is an "entertainer", he (in order).....
* looked you squarely in the eye
* p1ssed in your pocket
* told you that it was raining
* laughed in your face

FACT: Even my boy Carpentier was a better fighter than Pacquiao, and my boy Fitzy is hands down a level above him..... Burley was a much better fighter and he never won a title.

You guys are nuts, and I dont give a *** what ESPN, 60 minutes, fat old Merchant, blah, blah, says..... the old-time fighters are right, people are like parrots, and sheep, especially casual fans and idiots..... they all talked about Robinson being the best despite never having actually watched him fight because there was no footage available..... "oh, but saw it on, or I heard such-and-such say"..... , but never once bothering to compare him with Pep, who had a fkn phenomenal record early in his career and despite there being plenty of footage available.

I know what I know, you sheep can think what you like, but your boy is over-rated and he cant sing for ****

TRANSLATION: i need a job...

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TRANSLATION: i need a job...

Complete abject failure to point out an inconsistency or inaccuracy, is actually 100% agreement. Thanks for your support

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It's not even worth a $3 stream. Hit me up if you want a free live stream of the fight.

My personal rule of thumb, if you already know who's going to win the fight, it's not worth your hard earned money.

Something tells me the same type of Floyd fan who trashes this fight, praised and bought the Mayweather-Ortiz PPV saying Floyd was fighting a "young, strong, prime fighter" who had a real chance to win.

Fact is, both of these fights weren't/aren't very good. The lack of objectivity from the two sides is baffling.

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Something tells me the same type of Floyd fan who trashes this fight, praised and bought the Mayweather-Ortiz PPV saying Floyd was fighting a "young, strong, prime fighter" who had a real chance to win.

Fact is, both of these fights weren't/aren't very good. The lack of objectivity from the two sides is baffling.

" objectivity " ?

That aint the problem dude, smarten up.

FACT: Marquez is a 38yo lightweight who has already proven that he cannot hang at welter

FACT: Ortiz was a 24yo welter who was ranked #3

What is there to be objective about ?

Isn't common-sense more the issue here ?

Common-sense is my friend, let him be yours

[dj Calleti]

Let's see what happens.

[Larry the boss]

yea its looking real personal

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" objectivity " ?

That aint the problem dude, smarten up.

FACT: Marquez is a 38yo lightweight who has already proven that he cannot hang at welter

FACT: Ortiz was a 24yo welter who was ranked #3

What is there to be objective about ?

Isn't common-sense more the issue here ?

Common-sense is my friend, let him be yours

Ortiz was a 24yo welter who was ranked #3 in an extremely weak Welterweight division, who had one good win prior to the Mayweather fight. Who cares if he was 24, it don't mean **** if your chin is garbage and you have practically no experience fighting the best in the world. Any boxing fan with two eyes knew Ortiz only had a punchers chance.

FACT: Both fights are mismatches at this point.

Keep telling yourself that Mayweather-Ortiz was a competitive matchup though...

[Johnwoo8686]

Ortiz was a 24yo welter who was ranked #3 in an extremely weak Welterweight division, who had one good win prior to the Mayweather fight. Who cares if he was 24, it don't mean **** if your chin is garbage and you have practically no experience fighting the best in the world. Any boxing fan with two eyes knew Ortiz only had a punchers chance.

FACT: Both fights are mismatches at this point.

Keep telling yourself that Mayweather-Ortiz was a competitive matchup though...

I believe it was a competitive match up. What Ortiz lacked in skill he made up with size, speed, and youth. Sadly for Ortiz, Mayweather still had most of his speed intact and was light years ahead in skill. I am disappointed the fight didn't go on longer like most of you are but even if it had, Mayweather would've most likely won.

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Ortiz was a 24yo welter who was ranked #3 [B]in an extremely weak Welterweight division, who had one good win prior to the Mayweather fight. Who cares if he was 24, it don't mean **** if your chin is garbage and you have practically no experience fighting the best in the world. Any boxing fan with two eyes knew Ortiz only had a punchers chance.

FACT: Both fights are mismatches at this point.

Keep telling yourself that Mayweather-Ortiz was a competitive matchup though...

WHO CARES? At least he was proven at welter.

And Marquez DOES NOT have a punchers chance.

You proved my point entirely.

Again, what is there to be objective about ?

One is a lightweight who has proven that he cannot hang at welter, the other was coming off a great win and was ranked #3, higher than anyone Pac has ever fought.

Forget objectivity, the word you were looking for was blatant fanboy'ism.

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WHO CARES? At least he was proven at welter.

One fight at Welterweight against a decent, but not great fighter in Berto means you're proven at that weight now?

And Marquez DOES NOT have a punchers chance.

The Vegas odds for Pac-JMM are currently very similar to May-Ortiz, so if you gave Ortiz a chance then you have to give Marquez just as much of a chance. I'd trust a billion dollar industry's opinion over yours, sorry bro.

Again, what is there to be objective about ?

One is a lightweight who has proven that he cannot hang at welter, the other was coming off a great win and was ranked #3, higher than anyone Pac has ever fought.

You just lost all credibility.

Forget objectivity, the word you were looking for was blatant fanboy'ism.

I'm just trying to say neither are competitive fights at this point. You're the one sounding like the fanboy here with your unrelenting backing of Mayweather.