Makes no sense for Floyd to fight Sergio

[al-Xander]

Floyd will not fight MP without USADA administered random blood and urine testing. MP won't accept USADA random urine and blood testing, therefore we have no fight. There is no point in Floyd hanging around and waiting for anyone when they won't meet a fundamental requirement for him to fight them. It's just that simple!!!!

Floyd can't fight Manny without all these pre-conditions.
Fans need to accept this. Sergio vs Floyd is a better option
than another 1.5 year-long layoff.

[hugh grant]

So were questioning Floyd now to divert from Pac?

What does Pac at 116lbs have anything to do with Pac beating Cotto at a CW back in 2009 to become #1 P4P?

LOL at you saying Cotto was the best WW in the world "WHEN" (there is that ****ing WHEN word again) Pac fought him... "Your as good as your last fight" (your logic) Did you see Cotto's last fight before fighting Pac?

but lets avoid Pac and question Floyd.. lol You KNOW Pac has done NOTHING since 2009 to REMAIN P4P #1 which is why you want to avoid Pac and NOW question FLoyd...

Bottom line, IF Floyd fights and beats Martinez, he would surpasses anything Pac has done since beating Cotto at a CW to become P4P #1 back in 2009. It's 2011 and facing IN HOUSE irrelevant faded has beens does not justify Pac as #1.

Using YOUR very own logic of saying Pac should remain P4P #1 because of beating a loser like Clottey (your as good as your last fight), a banned has been like Margarito (your as good as your last fight), and an old losing Mosley (your as good as your last fight) is a FAIL "WHEN" Mayweather has fought a P4P #2 LW Champion JMM at WW (your as good as your last fight), WORLD WW Champion Mosley (your as good as your last fight) and #2 WW Champion Ortiz (your as good as your last fight) and IF Floyd fights and beats Martinez these fights surpass Pac's losing, banned and old opposition by a mile. You know I'm right and now want to question how and why Floyd was ever P4P #1, I rest my case....

Besides, like I said already this is all IF Floyd...... and we know what that means... Don't be mad about it, YOU should be happy. You rant and raved about how Floyd should be fighting Martinez...

Cant you try and be more succint, do you have to write so much to try and get your point across, youlll just lose your audience?

Cotto last fight against Clottey was a good win so why is you putting down Cottos last win? Sergios last win was not to good though and now Sergios stepping down a weight to face Floyd. If Floyd ate as much as Pac did, Floyd would be fighting at the 154 weight anyway.

So what Pac does in the 147 weight is equivalent to what Floyd should be doing in the 154 range! Pac have surpassed Floyd in all their common opponents thats is what people see as the bottom line, so Pac will stay at no1 for now thank you so much. Floyds just not a ko puncher i hear, well that detracts from his greatness as a fighter then as well. You get extra brownie points for being a puncher knocking bigger guys out.Just like Floyd stayed at no1 when Pac was beating the Barreras and Morales of this world.
Of course Floyd shouldnt have been no1, but the powers that be just thought that Pac should fight and beat Floyd before taking his place. So yes, Floyd needs to fight and beat Pac to claim his place.

[maguirre]

Make the Sergio fight happen, Floyd! It's definitely better than vacation.

:-)

[WESS]

Cant you try and be more succint, do you have to write so much to try and get your point across, youlll just lose your audience?

Cotto last fight against Clottey was a good win so why is you putting down Cottos last win? Sergios last win was not to good though and now Sergios stepping down a weight to face Floyd. If Floyd ate as much as Pac did, Floyd would be fighting at the 154 weight anyway.

So what Pac does in the 147 weight is equivalent to what Floyd should be doing in the 154 range! Pac have surpassed Floyd in all their common opponents thats is what people see as the bottom line, so Pac will stay at no1 for now thank you so much. Floyds just not a ko puncher i hear, well that detracts from his greatness as a fighter then as well. You get extra brownie points for being a puncher knocking bigger guys out.Just like Floyd stayed at no1 when Pac was beating the Barreras and Morales of this world.
Of course Floyd shouldnt have been no1, but the powers that be just thought that Pac should fight and beat Floyd before taking his place. So yes, Floyd needs to fight and beat Pac to claim his place.

I'm not looking for an audience.

So your argument is that since Floyd was #1 P4P back when Pac was fighting Barrera, JMM and Diaz you think Pac now should stay at #1 since Floyd is fighting Champion after Champion?

btw, Cotto's last win before Pac was not a "good" win. He barley beat a bum and it is still apparent he is not the same since quitting in the ring vs Margarito. Hell some will argue Cotto lost to both Clottey and Mosley.

You can talk about Martinez' last fight all you want but at the end of the day it was a KO victory. If he didn't end it in that fashion you might have a case. You don't. Martinez' last 3 fights have all in fact ended by KO's. You can't deny it or else you would just be a liar.

You can keep comparing Pac to Mayweather all day too, but that STILL does not change the fact of Pac's opposition does not justify him as #1 when other fighters are fighting better opposition.

Btw, when was the last time Pac fought a Champion? Again, Pac can't live off his 2009 CW Cotto fight forever. You know that or else you wouldn't be dragging Floyd into the convo comparing Pac to him or questioning WHY Floyd was P4P #1.

Funny how you so easily want to say Pac can stay at #1 yet had problems when Floyd was #1 for the same reasons.

[hugh grant]

Floydies seem to think just the fact if Sergio and Floyd sign to fight someone automatically takes pacs place? What if they fight in a very close contested fight, both visiting the floor about 3 times each and you leave thinking Pac would destroy them on that performance?

You cant just say the winner will be the best p4p fighter on the basis that the fight was actually made, which it should be made anyway. But the fight being made dont make you no1 p4p fighter.

That way Pac should sign to fight Wlad klitscho, even if Pac gets destroyed in the first 10 seconds. A lot depends on what happens in the fight between Sergio and Floyd before even thinking of making any changes to p4p positions.

[maguirre]

This fight will expose primarily which of the two is overrated. It might also show no one is overrated if the fight turns out to be bloody and very well contested. I'll be looking forward to it.

;-)

[WESS]

Floydies seem to think just the fact if Sergio and Floyd sign to fight someone automatically takes pacs place? What if they fight in a very close contested fight, both visiting the floor about 3 times each and you leave thinking Pac would destroy them on that performance?

You cant just say the winner will be the best p4p fighter on the basis that the fight was actually made, which it should be made anyway. But the fight being made dont make you no1 p4p fighter.

That way Pac should sign to fight Wlad klitscho, even if Pac gets destroyed in the first 10 seconds. A lot depends on what happens in the fight between Sergio and Floyd before even thinking of making any changes to p4p positions.

Now your just making **** up. Nobody is saying that Floyd/Martinez WILL or WOULD become #1 by just signing a contract. It's silly you could even fathom such a ridiculously ****** comment. Come on, your just throwing lazy jabs now.

If Floyd doesn't beat Martinez conveniently like he has done to most all his opposition than no he should not become #1, but if he makes it a white wash and out classes him than yes, he should be and rightfully so. Same with Martinez IF he beats Floyd.

[hugh grant]

Now your just making **** up. Nobody is saying that Floyd/Martinez WILL or WOULD become #1 by just signing a contract.
If Floyd doesn't beat Martinez conveniently like he has done to most all his opposition than no he should not become #1, but if he makes it a white wash and out classes him than yes, he should be and rightfully so. Same with Martinez IF he beats Floyd.

Wel youve seemed to be coming from the viewpoint that the winner automatically becomes no1, and because there is likely to be a winner, just signing a contract is all it seemed you believed it needed for the changing of the guard. Now you kind of agreeing a lot depends on what happens in the fight, which is what i said from the outset and changing your stance.

We might be coming to an understanding now and im kind of agreeing with you for the first time.

[tangalog2200]

Floyd can't fight Manny without all these pre-conditions.
Fans need to accept this. Sergio vs Floyd is a better option
than another 1.5 year-long layoff.

money wise, floyd vs sergio may not look so promising....

however, floyd vs sergio will be a good fight for floyd......

a floyd win over sergio will be another feather on his cap...

a loss will also show floyd as a fighter who takes on the big challenge

[WESS]

Wel youve seemed to be coming from the viewpoint that the winner automatically becomes no1, and because there is likely to be a winner, just signing a contract is all it seemed you believed it needed for the changing of the guard. Now you kind of agreeing a lot depends on what happens in the fight, which is what i said from the outset and changing your stance.

We might be coming to an understanding now and im kind of agreeing with you for the first time.

Obevesily they WONT be #1 by JUST signing a contract.

Again, who ever wins the fight IF...... (BIG IF) it happens WILL be #1 P4P. Of course if it ends like the Hopkins Dawson fight you would have yourself a case and Pac would be safe as #1 P4P fighting a LW at WW, that Floyd (bytch move) did 2 years ago. I have a feeling Khan will fight Mayweather before Martinez, however I won't be surprised IF happens and IF it does happen it means more in MY books at 154 or 155 and not below.

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