Joe Calzaghe

[Scary]

i can see you just looked at boxrec and saw luciano torres 45-2 record and thought he must be good........but i guess you didn't see that it was all bums. oh well. calzaghe didn't even beat him fair and square anyway.

Kinda mentioned him for the record, one of the few Calzaghe fights I haven't seen, but I did not know it was one of those premature stoppages again. Happened a lot for Joe, but nonetheless he beat some very good fighters too and I know you love to hate on him.

[daggum]

Kinda mentioned him for the record, one of the few Calzaghe fights I haven't seen, but I did not know it was one of those premature stoppages again. Happened a lot for Joe, but nonetheless he beat some very good fighters too and I know you love to hate on him.

just looking at records doesn't tell you anything about a fighter. joe calzaghe being a prime example. 46-0 but mostly tomato cans and gift wrapped wins. a couple good wins doesn't overshadow a fraudulent career. if boxrec says calzaghe ko'd someone you can almost be sure it was an early stoppage or some kind of hilarious intervention by the ref.

[Scary]

just looking at records doesn't tell you anything about a fighter. joe calzaghe being a prime example. 46-0 but mostly tomato cans and gift wrapped wins. a couple good wins doesn't overshadow a fraudulent career. if boxrec says calzaghe ko'd someone you can almost be sure it was an early stoppage or some kind of hilarious intervention by the ref.

Then I guess i've seen more fights than you, Joe threw the hammer in the early days knocking many out flat. Perhaps not the best fighters back then, but when he reached elite level he met a lot of good names. And 21 titledefences is not to be overlooked. But I too am a bit unsatisfied with the way his career ended, he should definitely have taken Dawson, Pavlik and a Hopkins rematch, if you mix Froch in there you got a serious candidate for breaking top 100 atg resume, had he taken and won them all.

[daggum]

Then I guess i've seen more fights than you, Joe threw the hammer in the early days knocking many out flat. Perhaps not the best fighters back then, but when he reached elite level he met a lot of good names. And 21 titledefences is not to be overlooked. But I too am a bit unsatisfied with the way his career ended, he should definitely have taken Dawson, Pavlik and a Hopkins rematch, if you mix Froch in there you got a serious candidate for breaking top 100 atg resume, had he taken and won them all.

was it a nerf hammer?

[Scary]

was it a nerf hammer?

I know you love to dig those out discrediting Joe for it. Who do you discredit for those? Frank? Ref?

[SirTomJones]

daggum lost his house because he bet all his money on hopkins.

he had to sell his car when he lost absolutely everything betting on jones jr.

[daggum]

I know you love to dig those out discrediting Joe for it. Who do you discredit for those? Frank? Ref?

they are all to blame. not giving the other guy a chance to win and putting more ko's on joes record so clueless fans can say calzaghe was a power puncher. i have more respect for cesar rene cuenca 41-0 (1ko)

[daggum]

daggum lost his house because he bet all his money on hopkins.

he had to sell his car when he lost absolutely everything betting on jones jr.

actually i lost most of it betting on manfredo. i saw him lose on the contender and i thought he was a lock to beat unknown joe.

[SirTomJones]

daggum once walked in to find enzo calzaghe giving his mother a pearl necklace.

this is just one of many daggum-calzaghe facts.

[daggum]

can you imagine a "world champ" fighting the runner up on prizefighter? calzaghe basically did that by fighting contender loser manfredo. why?


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