Do you honestly think Pac Marquez 3 will be competitve.

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  • TOBYLEE1
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    #21
    Not saying that Marquez is going to win but to dismiss that easily his skills and determination is not rational. Marquez is still a top p4p fighter and can adjust in a fight.

    I don't think Pac is just going to walk thru him

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      #22
      Originally posted by WarMaidana
      do you guys think it will be entertaining atleast? Margarito was ****d by Manny but it was an entertaining fight cause he kept fighting and made manny uncomfortable at times
      Yes, it might be a more one sided version (in pac's favor) of their first 2 encounters, though.

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      • John Barron
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        #23
        i'm gonna laugh so hard if it ends up being competitive.

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        • Jack Napier
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          #24
          hell no, this is a public execution :laugh:

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          • F l i c k e r
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            #25
            No. Freddie Roach already basically said Pacquiao was going to carry him rounds.

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            • 26 and Live
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              #26
              It's hard to say...

              In the first two fights, Pac was pretty much pawing with the right hand. Now he's throwing it with some velocity. That's important because Marquez wasn't beating him with speed as much as he was timing him.

              When Pac pawed with the right and lunged in, he was running into straight right hands. What happens when the right hand actually becomes a weapon? He may be harder to time and if that's the case, I think it'll be tough for Marquez to win.

              The thing is though, in both fights Marquez caught Pac enough to make him think twice before jumping in with that straight left... I don't know if he'll be able to do that this time around.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
                Not saying that Marquez is going to win but to dismiss that easily his skills and determination is not rational. Marquez is still a top p4p fighter and can adjust in a fight.

                I don't think Pac is just going to walk thru him
                I agree with this.

                Im expecting a pretty good fight personally.

                Theres a history between the 2 and im thinking that will influence both fighters mentality in the fight.

                I give the edge to Pac and while its not the top fight I would want to see, im still looking forward to it. Theres nothing better than a big fight night.

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                • Hi-Dro
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                  #28
                  Honestly from an objective perspective Marquez is out of depth at 144, as opposed to Pacquiao who is accustomed to the higher weights. We all saw it when he fought Diaz at 135, which was two divisions below his fight with Mayweather. Pacquiao should have at least fought him at 140, but him and his team decided to gain yet another advantage over the out of depth, and older JMM, which is plain bull****.

                  Lets face it. What Pacquiao has done is great, which is why he is the p4p king. He has put in work, and has given it his all in the ring, which is all that we really want. However, Pacquiao isn't in it for the competitiveness anymore. He is a star, future atg, and politician. He could retire tomorrow and his legacy will be in place. It's all about the money right now.

                  **** this fight. Nevertheless, Marquez's style will always give Pacquiao problems. A lot of people speak of Pac's ability to fight bigger opponents, as a measurement of how Marquez will do against him. However, people fail to realize the stylistic differentials of the fighters Pac has faced, as opposed to Marquez.

                  Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto all used the left hand as there predominant weapon of choice. The left hook was there main weapon, and the jab for Oscar and Cotto. Pacquiao easily took that away by pivoting to there left, which left them exposed to Pac's destructive arsenal of punches. Re-watch the fights guys. The game plan, and dynamics of facing Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto changed, as opposed to facing Marquez whose main weapon is not consistent of the left hand, but rather a vast variety of punches. Pac can't move Marquez to his left, and expect to neutralize his best asset, as well as his ability to set up punches because Marquez will simply tag his ass with a right. The differential in styles is easy to see.

                  However, against Clottey, Marg, and Mosley the dynamics changed as well. Marg was a straight come forward fighter, Mosley was shot to ****, and Clottey's style was easily neutralized by Pac as Pac's punch output kept Clottey in his shell.

                  None of those fighters resemble Marquez's style, nor do there fights against Pacquiao give us a clue on Pac's ability to stylistically fight Marquez. Marquez should put up a valiant effort against Pac, but the outcome doesn't seem so bright, as he has the chips stacked against him.
                  Last edited by Hi-Dro; 10-12-2011, 12:05 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hi-Dro
                    Honestly from an objective perspective Marquez is out of depth at 144, as opposed to Pacquiao who is accustomed to the higher weights. We all saw it when he fought Diaz at 135, which was two divisions below his fight with Mayweather. Pacquiao should have at least fought him at 140, but him and his team decided to gain yet another advantage over the out of depth, and older JMM, which is plain bull****.

                    Lets face it. What Pacquiao has done is great, which is why he is the p4p king. He has put in work, and has given it his all in the ring, which is all that we really want. However, Pacquiao isn't in it for the competitiveness anymore. He is a star, future atg, and politician. He could retire tomorrow and his legacy will be in place. It's all about the money right now.

                    **** this fight. Nevertheless, Marquez's style will always give Pacquiao problems. A lot of people speak of Pac's ability to fight bigger opponents, as a measurement of how Marquez will do against him. However, people fail to realize the stylistic differentials of the fighters Pac has faced, as opposed to Marquez.

                    Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto all used the left hand as there predominant weapon of choice. The left hook was there main weapon, and the jab for Oscar and Cotto. Pacquiao easily took that away by pivoting to there left, which left them exposed to Pac's destructive arsenal of punches. Re-watch the fights guys. The game plan, and dynamics of facing Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto changed, as opposed to facing Marquez whose main weapon is not consistent of the left hand, but rather a vast variety of punches. Pac can't move Marquez to his left, and expect to neutralize his best asset, as well as his ability to set up punches because Marquez will simply tag his ass with a right. The differential in styles is easy to see.

                    However, against Clottey, Marg, and Mosley the dynamics changed as well. Marg was a straight come forward fighter, Mosley was shot to ****, and Clottey's style was easily neutralized by Pac as Pac's punch output kept Clottey in his shell.

                    None of those fighters resemble Marquez's style, nor do there fights against Pacquiao give us a clue on Pac's ability to stylistically fight Marquez. Marquez should put up a valiant effort against Pac, but the outcome doesn't seem so bright, as he has the chips stacked against him.
                    Multiple personalities up in hurrr^^^^^^^

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                    • Motofan
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                      #30
                      Im a huge fan of Marquez, and I gave him both of the prior fights. But he is slowing down, moving less, getting tagged more, and just too small to handle the jump up in weight (he fought Floyd under water.) I think this fight ends early by Pac stoppage.

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