Todd Duboef is the most powerful man in Boxing right now.

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Hauser is a fucking clown, he isn't a bit biased toward Top Rank he is very biased toward Top Rank.

He goes crazy looking for very small flaws in HBO and GBP then he lavishes love on Top Rank.

Please, he deserves like no respect, you can like him if you want that is you but I am calling a spade a spade from what I see and it is very obvious not like he is even good at hiding it.

lol very small flaws in HBO? Investing about $10 million in Bradley & Alexander in 2011 alone is a small flaw? Wasting millions on guys nobody wants to see fight are small flaws? Come on man, HBO boxing has been ran terribly the last several years. They've had HUGE FLAWS

[onechance87]

lol very small flaws in HBO? Investing about $10 million in Bradley & Alexander in 2011 alone is a small flaw? Wasting millions on guys nobody wants to see fight are small flaws? Come on man, HBO boxing has been ran terribly the last several years. They've had HUGE FLAWS

Agreed......

[The Gambler1981]

lol very small flaws in HBO? Investing about $10 million in Bradley & Alexander in 2011 alone is a small flaw? Wasting millions on guys nobody wants to see fight are small flaws? Come on man, HBO boxing has been ran terribly the last several years. They've had HUGE FLAWS

Dude, HBO buys fights sometimes they miss big deal for every Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio they have built there are 20 dudes that didn't live up to expectations, no risk no reward and sometimes it fails. Big deal~

They have flaws they are not huge flaws, that were worth the time he spent on them, now this is the exact opposite he is showing all kinds of love without looking at Top Ranks flaws.


Hence why I have no respect for him.

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Dude, HBO buys fights sometimes they miss big deal for every Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio they have built there are 20 dudes that didn't live up to expectations, no risk no reward and sometimes it fails. Big deal~

What do you mean big deal? Making bradley vs alexander wasn't idiotic. It was idiotic guaranteeing both the winner & loser $1.3 million in their return fights. It was idiotic spending over $3 million on site fees for the fight. It was idiotic spending $1 million+ on an Andre Berto undercard fight. It's idiotic spending money on guys no one cares to watch, it's as easy as that. And they've been doing this for years, especially with Al Haymon fighters.

They have flaws they are not huge flaws, that were worth the time he spent on them, now this is the exact opposite he is showing all kinds of love without looking at Top Ranks flaws.

It is worth the time since no one else in the boxing world is exposing HBO's flaws. I'm glad someone is doing it.

There are a lot of problems in boxing and HBO is part of the problem. The more people focus on this the better chance there is of things improving. If we ignore it nothing will ever change.

[The Gambler1981]

What do you mean big deal? Making bradley vs alexander wasn't idiotic. It was idiotic guaranteeing both the winner & loser $1.3 million in their return fights. It was idiotic spending over $3 million on site fees for the fight. It was idiotic spending $1 million+ on an Andre Berto undercard fight. It's idiotic spending money on guys no one cares to watch, it's as easy as that. And they've been doing this for years, especially with Al Haymon fighters.



It is worth the time since no one else in the boxing world is exposing HBO's flaws. I'm glad someone is doing it.

So what, if the fight worked out like they wanted and intended that was money well spent or at least decently spent. That fight didn't pan out so locking those guys in failed, big deal.

Andre Berto was a guy HBO spent money building, they either had to kept going with that investment or cut loose, but keep in mind that investment in Berto lead to the Ortiz fight which in turn led to a big PPV so they kind of got a lot of that investment back no?

HBO does not have huge flaws they are a network that shows the fights they want to show, big deal the problem with boxing isn't that top end which HBO represents him spending all the time on that is a farce all done because Arum said so.

[The Gambler1981]

There are a lot of problems in boxing and HBO is part of the problem. The more people focus on this the better chance there is of things improving. If we ignore it nothing will ever change.

No HBO is not part of the problem, if HBO went away do the problems go away, no. So don't talk out of your ass.

Can HBO do a better job sure, but in boxing things don't always work out as intended some times will be better than other. Jumping on someones head during a really dry run is not changing anything.

HBO is still the main force that built the two biggest stars, without HBO there is no Floyd or Manny so just brushing that shit off is not looking at the whole picture.

[ИATAS]

So what, if the fight worked out like they wanted and intended that was money well spent or at least decently spent. That fight didn't pan out so locking those guys in failed, big deal.

That's part of the problem though. They shouldn't invest that kind of money on a "hope." Even if it turned out to be a good fight that doesn't warrant $1.3 million dollar paydays for each guy in their next fight plus all the fight fees etc. That $10 million or so dollars could have been invested to make other fights. For example bhop vs dawson, etc. Instead they are tapped out of cash and can't make certain fights, this is a reoccurring theme with HBO.

Andre Berto was a guy HBO spent money building, they either had to kept going with that investment or cut loose, but keep in mind that investment in Berto lead to the Ortiz fight which in turn led to a big PPV so they kind of got a lot of that investment back no?

You don't see that as a problem? HBO investing/building guys like Berto? The very fact they thought so highly of Berto should throw up red flags....

HBO does not have huge flaws they are a network that shows the fights they want to show, big deal the problem with boxing isn't that top end which HBO represents him spending all the time on that is a farce all done because Arum said so.

It is a big deal when they are showing too many fights that the fans don't give a **** about, though and waste money on guys who either just aren't that good or aren't exciting. That's a problem, imo.

Boxing is entertainment right? HBO want's high ratings for their boxing shows right? Then when they are investing millions of dollars in guys that produce low ratings, that's a flaw. A big one!

[ИATAS]

No HBO is not part of the problem, if HBO went away do the problems go away, no. So don't talk out of your ass.

No need to get so offended. I've always been cool with you on this website, not sure why out of all the topics this is the one that gets you to talk sideways to me.

We'll have to agree to disagree with HBO. I think they are part of the problem. They make weak ass fights time and time again and invest in guys noboday cares about. If HBO was gone would the problems go away? No, but maybe it would be better I can't say for certain it wouldn't. Showtime would be huge. Boxers would be getting paid less money, thus ESPN would get bigger fights, same with showtime et al.

Can HBO do a better job sure, but in boxing things don't always work out as intended some times will be better than other. Jumping on someones head during a really dry run is not changing anything.

If you can agree that HBO can do better, then how is it hard for you to see they wont get better unless there is criticism with how they run their boxing programs? If there is no criticism there is no effort to get better.

HBO is still the main force that built the two biggest stars, without HBO there is no Floyd or Manny so just brushing that shit off is not looking at the whole picture.

Two stars, ok great. That's all we got right now, two guys. Nobody else knows who the hell anyone else is in the sport. Not something to brag about imo.

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I don't know that much on him bvut when Floyd Mayweather Jnr said Debouf of Top Rank and his wife do a greta job and that he respects them, then you know they are doing something right.

[The Gambler1981]

That's part of the problem though. They shouldn't invest that kind of money on a "hope." Even if it turned out to be a good fight that doesn't warrant $1.3 million dollar paydays for each guy in their next fight plus all the fight fees etc. That $10 million or so dollars could have been invested to make other fights. For example bhop vs dawson, etc. Instead they are tapped out of cash and can't make certain fights, this is a reoccurring theme with HBO.



You don't see that as a problem? HBO investing/building guys like Berto? The very fact they thought so highly of Berto should throw up red flags....



It is a big deal when they are showing too many fights that the fans don't give a **** about, though and waste money on guys who either just aren't that good or aren't exciting. That's a problem, imo.

Boxing is entertainment right? HBO want's high ratings for their boxing shows right? Then when they are investing millions of dollars in guys that produce low ratings, that's a flaw. A big one!

The problem is if HBO doesn't invest in the sport, whatever money HBO invests in the sport goes into boxing. It is boxing sometimes fights work, sometimes they don't but that was a fight people were looking forward too because it didn't work out there is a problem, bad contracts happen in sports big deal you deal with it an move on.

The problem there is no high end outside of HBO and to a lesser extent Showtime, but that is not the networks fault in fact Arum led that charge to premium cable so Hauser's boy is just reaping what he sowed, big deal but he never looks at that.

You don't cut open the goose that lays the golden eggs to figure out why it is laying golden eggs.

HBO is not a problem, you may not like what they do all the time but that doesn't make it a big problem.

I am entertained by fights on HBO, there is more to the sport than HBO though so one outlet's issues are to me minuscule