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Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View PostGTFOH ! Tyson is my fav boxer and I know he's not the greatest but calling him a simple brawled with a few more dimensions? Yet he managed to ko spinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Berbrick?
lol you're a good poster man! but I just don't see eye to eye with you on Tyson's legacy (or lack thereof). . . He definitely had some decent wins, and went on a VIOLENT run. . . but I think everyone would argue Holmes was DONE. . . Ruddock and Berbick were glorfied journeyman - no pushovers, but definitely not true world class pugilists. . . Spinks is his best win, but come on, SPINKS?! He's not exactly knocking on the doors of Canastota
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Originally posted by uglypug View Postlol you're a good poster man! but I just don't see eye to eye with you on Tyson's legacy (or lack thereof). . . He definitely had some decent wins, and went on a VIOLENT run. . . but I think everyone would argue Holmes was DONE. . . Ruddock and Berbick were glorfied journeyman - no pushovers, but definitely not true world class pugilists. . . Spinks is his best win, but come on, SPINKS?! He's not exactly knocking on the doors of Canastota
We never got to see that prime Mike Tyson of '86-88 trained by Kevin Rooney face a prime Holyfield or a prime Lewis.
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Originally posted by adp023 View PostIn my opinion, Larry Holmes is the indicator on a prime Mike Tyson. Yes, Tyson knocked Holmes the **** out early. But then Holmes later fought Holyfied and Lewis and lost both fights by decision. That old Holmes that got KTFO by a prime Tyson won rounds from Holyfield and Lewis. That says it all to me.
We never got to see that prime Mike Tyson of '86-88 trained by Kevin Rooney face a prime Holyfield or a prime Lewis.
tyson's kryptonite was a guy with no fear, with equal or greater power, and a good jab. . .
It's just to make a good argument for Tyson you have to say he had the SHORTEST PRIME of any boxer in the history of the sport. . . I just don't buy it. . . He was a shark, very quick hands and feet, and a hell of a puncher. . . but he didn't know how to make adjustments to save his life. . . ANY adversity he faced, he couldn't deal. . .
He is a hall of famer, but he is not an all time great heavyweight (a top 10-15). . .
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Originally posted by uglypug View PostHolmes was coming off a two year break. . . He didn't have the legs that he used to have in his prime - nowhere close. . . his jab didn't have the same zip on it either. . . what about buster douglas? to me that says it all about tyson - the first time he fights somebody who isn't intimidated busts his ass. . . I'd say Tyson was just as much in his prime then, as he was against Holmes and Spinks. . .
tyson's kryptonite was a guy with no fear, with equal or greater power, and a good jab. . .
It's just to make a good argument for Tyson you have to say he had the SHORTEST PRIME of any boxer in the history of the sport. . . I just don't buy it. . . He was a shark, very quick hands and feet, and a hell of a puncher. . . but he didn't know how to make adjustments to save his life. . . ANY adversity he faced, he couldn't deal. . .
He is a hall of famer, but he is not an all time great heavyweight (a top 10-15). . .
These aren't excuses. It's all Mike's fault for not having the mental capacity to handle his affairs even at a very young age. He peaked by 1988. Only if he was smart enough to keep Rooney, we would've at least gotten Tyson-Holyfield earlier and who knows.
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Gotta Love That Holyfield/Tyson Story! They Made Each Other Wealthy!
Nice these two warriors made amends. They carried on a rich Heavyweight history, that Larry Holmes past on to them. Then the Heavyweight division was thee Division of all Divisions. When you had a Heavyweight Championship fight, you had a Global Event in Boxing. The Heavyweight division these days is a forgotten division. We should take our hats off to Holyfield and Tyson, and the Legends who set that stage before them.
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