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  • #11
    Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
    The word is revoke, not provoke you ****** convict. Maybe you should take some English classes in the prison library since you obviously have alot of time on your hands.
    I think Floyd and Wesley Snipes have the same tax lawyer. Probably the same tax lawyer that Don King hired to defend Tyson's **** trial.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
      GTFOH ! Tyson is my fav boxer and I know he's not the greatest but calling him a simple brawled with a few more dimensions? Yet he managed to ko spinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Berbrick?

      lol you're a good poster man! but I just don't see eye to eye with you on Tyson's legacy (or lack thereof). . . He definitely had some decent wins, and went on a VIOLENT run. . . but I think everyone would argue Holmes was DONE. . . Ruddock and Berbick were glorfied journeyman - no pushovers, but definitely not true world class pugilists. . . Spinks is his best win, but come on, SPINKS?! He's not exactly knocking on the doors of Canastota

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      • #13
        Originally posted by uglypug View Post
        lol you're a good poster man! but I just don't see eye to eye with you on Tyson's legacy (or lack thereof). . . He definitely had some decent wins, and went on a VIOLENT run. . . but I think everyone would argue Holmes was DONE. . . Ruddock and Berbick were glorfied journeyman - no pushovers, but definitely not true world class pugilists. . . Spinks is his best win, but come on, SPINKS?! He's not exactly knocking on the doors of Canastota
        In my opinion, Larry Holmes is the indicator on a prime Mike Tyson. Yes, Tyson knocked Holmes the **** out early. But then Holmes later fought Holyfied and Lewis and lost both fights by decision. That old Holmes that got KTFO by a prime Tyson won rounds from Holyfield and Lewis. That says it all to me.

        We never got to see that prime Mike Tyson of '86-88 trained by Kevin Rooney face a prime Holyfield or a prime Lewis.

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        • #14
          holmes fought lewis when???did he ****

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          • #15
            Originally posted by adp023 View Post
            In my opinion, Larry Holmes is the indicator on a prime Mike Tyson. Yes, Tyson knocked Holmes the **** out early. But then Holmes later fought Holyfied and Lewis and lost both fights by decision. That old Holmes that got KTFO by a prime Tyson won rounds from Holyfield and Lewis. That says it all to me.

            We never got to see that prime Mike Tyson of '86-88 trained by Kevin Rooney face a prime Holyfield or a prime Lewis.
            Holmes was coming off a two year break. . . He didn't have the legs that he used to have in his prime - nowhere close. . . his jab didn't have the same zip on it either. . . what about buster douglas? to me that says it all about tyson - the first time he fights somebody who isn't intimidated busts his ass. . . I'd say Tyson was just as much in his prime then, as he was against Holmes and Spinks. . .

            tyson's kryptonite was a guy with no fear, with equal or greater power, and a good jab. . .

            It's just to make a good argument for Tyson you have to say he had the SHORTEST PRIME of any boxer in the history of the sport. . . I just don't buy it. . . He was a shark, very quick hands and feet, and a hell of a puncher. . . but he didn't know how to make adjustments to save his life. . . ANY adversity he faced, he couldn't deal. . .

            He is a hall of famer, but he is not an all time great heavyweight (a top 10-15). . .

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            • #16
              Originally posted by musiol View Post
              holmes fought lewis when???did he ****
              Just to make sure I checked boxrec and he never fought Lewis. . .

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              • #17
                Originally posted by uglypug View Post
                Just to make sure I checked boxrec and he never fought Lewis. . .
                My bad...I was thinking of Tony Tucker.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by uglypug View Post
                  Holmes was coming off a two year break. . . He didn't have the legs that he used to have in his prime - nowhere close. . . his jab didn't have the same zip on it either. . . what about buster douglas? to me that says it all about tyson - the first time he fights somebody who isn't intimidated busts his ass. . . I'd say Tyson was just as much in his prime then, as he was against Holmes and Spinks. . .

                  tyson's kryptonite was a guy with no fear, with equal or greater power, and a good jab. . .

                  It's just to make a good argument for Tyson you have to say he had the SHORTEST PRIME of any boxer in the history of the sport. . . I just don't buy it. . . He was a shark, very quick hands and feet, and a hell of a puncher. . . but he didn't know how to make adjustments to save his life. . . ANY adversity he faced, he couldn't deal. . .

                  He is a hall of famer, but he is not an all time great heavyweight (a top 10-15). . .
                  Once Mike's second father figure/manager Jim Jacobs died of cancer in '88, he dumped Kevin Rooney after the Spinks fight and everything in his life went to ****!!! Tyson also dumped Bill Cayton and fell into the evil hands of Don King. Tyson started losing discipline and got hit more in his next fight with Bruno. And by the time he fought Buster Douglas, he just didn't care.

                  These aren't excuses. It's all Mike's fault for not having the mental capacity to handle his affairs even at a very young age. He peaked by 1988. Only if he was smart enough to keep Rooney, we would've at least gotten Tyson-Holyfield earlier and who knows.

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                  • #19
                    Gotta Love That Holyfield/Tyson Story! They Made Each Other Wealthy!

                    Nice these two warriors made amends. They carried on a rich Heavyweight history, that Larry Holmes past on to them. Then the Heavyweight division was thee Division of all Divisions. When you had a Heavyweight Championship fight, you had a Global Event in Boxing. The Heavyweight division these days is a forgotten division. We should take our hats off to Holyfield and Tyson, and the Legends who set that stage before them.

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