What conditions are required for a title to be considered lineal?

[x3_bazooka_x3]

your missing the point. The Lineal champ isnt really open to interpretation. It isnt another type of belt. It is: The man who beat the man, unless someone retires or moves up or down in weight and then its the #1 vs the #2 or sometimes the #3, or the title is vacant. Many Lineal titles are vacant because someone retired or moved up or down and then #1 still hasnt fought the #2 in the division or possibly the #3. Cleaning out a division or becoming unified doesnt necessarily make you the linear champ. Beating the man who was does.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this

So again let me get this straight, that means the title that Floyd won from Oscar was NOT lineal..... Oscar was not considered the man at that time he beat Mayorga who was not considered the man has he won the Vacant WBC from Piccirillo in a box off for that vacant title.

So again why do we say that Floyds Jr Middleweight title is Lineal?

[x3_bazooka_x3]

I take it we are no longer in the mood to discuss how many lineal titles Floyd has won any longer eh?

[dharone]

So again let me get this straight, that means the title that Floyd won from Oscar was NOT lineal..... Oscar was not considered the man at that time he beat Mayorga who was not considered the man has he won the Vacant WBC from Piccirillo in a box off for that vacant title.

So again why do we say that Floyds Jr Middleweight title is Lineal?

Who said the Jr. Middleweight title was lineal? First time I've ever heard that.

He is a 4 time lineal champ in 3 weight divisions: Jr Lightweight, Lightweight and welterweight (twice)

[old cat]

Martinez is a very good example of a lineal Title holder.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Who said the Jr. Middleweight title was lineal? First time I've ever heard that.

He is a 4 time lineal champ in 3 weight divisions: Jr Lightweight, Lightweight and welterweight (twice)

Twice at welter? please do explain

[madsweeney]

Twice at welter? please do explain

He wond the lineal title from Baldo (joke as it was) and then some people claim he won it again when he beat Mosley. I personally don't believe Mosley was the lineal, but there has been argument that he won it against Margo (a #1 vs #3 fight). Mosley never was awarded the Ring belt.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

By defeating Baldomir and Mosley.

Mosley as never lineal, get out of here with that, Sure he beat Margarito who Beat Cotto, but rewind the clock, Floyd retired what two three days before Cotto and Margarito fought?
Margarito didnt get the ring title neither..... when he beat Cotto... Floyd retired as champ cus he had beat Baldo.... I am sorry but it is what it is man..

[Larry the boss]

you gotta beat the man who beat the man who beat the man

[Larry the boss]

So again let me get this straight, that means the title that Floyd won from Oscar was NOT lineal..... Oscar was not considered the man at that time he beat Mayorga who was not considered the man has he won the Vacant WBC from Piccirillo in a box off for that vacant title.

So again why do we say that Floyds Jr Middleweight title is Lineal?

no 1 says floyd was lineal at 154...he was lineal at

130-hernendez win

135-castillo win

147-baldo and mosley win


154 wasnt lineal it was just a belt

[x3_bazooka_x3]

you gotta beat the man who beat the man who beat the man

Exactly, but again he doesnt have four lineal titles as you all argue.