which gets more credit.. floyd hatton or pacquiao bradley

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  • Check_hooks
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    #21
    floyd ducked hatton at the weight class he was lineal champ at and he used his elbows dozens of times in that fight

    Bradley just going by skills is far better than hatton ever was

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    • TheFrog
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      #22
      It is very similar IMO. In both cases you get undefeated Light Welterweight champions with some hype. Also in both cases you get fights that are decent but people would rather see fights against other fighters (mainly people who are actually welterweights)

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      • 4Corners
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        #23
        It's about equal. Ricky Hatton was one great/solid win away from being an All-Time Great. He was an all-time REALLY GOOD fighter, but he was a big win away from being great. Bradley has three solid wins over Abregu, Peterson, and Alexander, but he NEEDS the big win to be great too.

        Hatton was #4 P4P, Bradley is #7 P4P. Hatton was coming in with wins over Tszyu, Collazo, and Castillo. Bradley would be coming into the fight with wins over Abregu, Peterson, and Alexander. Pretty similar in terms of competition. GOOD wins, but not a GREAT win.

        Hatton was in his latter-prime, and Bradley is in his prime/latter-prime years.

        It's pretty equal. If Bradley loses to Pacquiao and than goes on to beat Amir Khan, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz...it will look like a huge win on Pac's resume. If he goes on to be pretty good, but not great, it will look like a really good win on his resume.

        Also, anyone who says Hatton in 2009 was still in his prime is honestly lying to themselves. After Mayweather beat Hatton, he looked like complete crap against Lazcano and Malignaggi. He was past his prime, but still good when Pac got to him. He was nowhere near the same guy who fought Floyd in 2007. Same with Miguel Cotto. There's no way anyone can honestly sit on here and say Miguel Cotto was still in his "prime" when Pac fought him in late 2009. Cotto has been pst prime, still good since the Margarito loss. TRUTH.

        All in all, it's about even. Hatton was one of the best in his generation, and possibly the best in his generation at 140 lbs. Bradley may end up being one of the best in his generation, but he needs to beat Khan to prove he was the best at that weight.

        Also, to all you Pac fans who criticized Floyd for fighting Hatton, who you all said was "blown up and ****** at 147" and how you all discredited that win because Hatton was better at 140....you guys better follow suit when Pac fights Bradley. If you're going to critique Mayweather fighting Hatton and discredit it...you better critique Pac fighting Bradley and discredit it. I gave Mayweather all the credit for beating Hatton, it was a big win. And I will do the same for Pac if he beats Bradley. You guys better follow suit as well.

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        • Elotero
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          #24
          Originally posted by 4CornersKid
          It's about equal. Ricky Hatton was one great/solid win away from being an All-Time Great. He was an all-time REALLY GOOD fighter, but he was a big win away from being great. Bradley has three solid wins over Abregu, Peterson, and Alexander, but he NEEDS the big win to be great too.

          Hatton was #4 P4P, Bradley is #7 P4P. Hatton was coming in with wins over Tszyu, Collazo, and Castillo. Bradley would be coming into the fight with wins over Abregu, Peterson, and Alexander. Pretty similar in terms of competition. GOOD wins, but not a GREAT win.

          Hatton was in his latter-prime, and Bradley is in his prime/latter-prime years.

          It's pretty equal. If Bradley loses to Pacquiao and than goes on to beat Amir Khan, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz...it will look like a huge win on Pac's resume. If he goes on to be pretty good, but not great, it will look like a really good win on his resume.

          Also, anyone who says Hatton in 2009 was still in his prime is honestly lying to themselves. After Mayweather beat Hatton, he looked like complete crap against Lazcano and Malignaggi. He was past his prime, but still good when Pac got to him. He was nowhere near the same guy who fought Floyd in 2007. Same with Miguel Cotto. There's no way anyone can honestly sit on here and say Miguel Cotto was still in his "prime" when Pac fought him in late 2009. Cotto has been pst prime, still good since the Margarito loss. TRUTH.

          All in all, it's about even. Hatton was one of the best in his generation, and possibly the best in his generation at 140 lbs. Bradley may end up being one of the best in his generation, but he needs to beat Khan to prove he was the best at that weight.

          Also, to all you Pac fans who criticized Floyd for fighting Hatton, who you all said was "blown up and ****** at 147" and how you all discredited that win because Hatton was better at 140....you guys better follow suit when Pac fights Bradley. If you're going to critique Mayweather fighting Hatton and discredit it...you better critique Pac fighting Bradley and discredit it. I gave Mayweather all the credit for beating Hatton, it was a big win. And I will do the same for Pac if he beats Bradley. You guys better follow suit as well.
          Hatton was coming in with wins over Tszyu, Collazo, and Castillo.

          All overblown. That was Tszyu's last fight, Collazo almost had him out, and that was a shot Castillo, Castillo AFTER the fight of the century.

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          • 4Corners
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            #25
            Originally posted by Check_hooks
            floyd ducked hatton at the weight class he was lineal champ at and he used his elbows dozens of times in that fight

            Bradley just going by skills is far better than hatton ever was
            Hatton vs. Bradley at 140 would be a close fight. Mayweather over Hatton and Pacquiao over Bradley are very similar, you can't deny it.

            You were without the doubt probably one of the people on here criticizing Mayweather for fighting the #4 P4P, in his prime, unbeaten, the best fighter at 140....when Pacquiao is doing the EXACT SAME THING.

            Mayweather ducked Hatton at 140??? Hatton came into P4P recognition after his wins over Tszyu (2005), Collazo (2006), Urango (2007), and Castillo (2007). Mayweather moved up to Welterweight in late 2005.

            If you're going to say Mayweather ducked Hatton at 140, than Pacquiao ducked Berto in 2010, Victor Ortiz in 2011. As well as ducking rematches with Marquez (the first time for 4 years and the second time for 3 1/2 years) and Barrera (4 years). You can't have it both ways. Hatton wasn't even on anyone's major rador until he beat Tszyu in 2005, just like Bradley wasn't on anyones major rador until he beat Peterson in 2009.

            Hatton and Bradley are about the same. Different styles, same in terms of how good they were. Hatton was an agressive guy who could punch, apllying relentless pressure. Bradley is more of a technical guy, who likes to throw punches but isn't a big puncher at all.

            2005-2007 version of Hatton vs. 2009-present version of Bradley would be a great fight.

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            • Bushbaby
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              #26
              The situations are damn near identical except that Hatton could very easily have been declared the loser when he fought Collazo & Bradley will probably be a bigger underdog than Hatton was. But besides that, i'd say there dead even.

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              • 4Corners
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                #27
                Originally posted by Elotero
                Hatton was coming in with wins over Tszyu, Collazo, and Castillo.

                All overblown. That was Tszyu's last fight, Collazo almost had him out, and that was a shot Castillo, Castillo AFTER the fight of the century.
                Peterson, Abregu, and Alexander were good wins, not great. Tszyu, Collazo, Castillo, and Urango were good wins, not great. That was my point. Both have accomplished about the same. Hatton would of have been considered an all-time great with one more big win, same with Bradley now.

                I was also mainly saying that Pac fans harped all over Mayweather for doing the EXACT SAME THING Pac is doing now. Kinda like how Mayweather beat Marquez at 144 in 2009 (when he still had something left) and Pac fans crusify him for that....what's Pac doing now??? EXACT SAME THING, only Marquez has NOTHING LEFT. Marquez isn't even coming off any impressive wins in the past two years.

                Ricky Hatton....Timothy Bradley...same with different styles and fights. Hatton mentally and physically fell apart after Mayweather, and didn't cement his legacy as an all-time great, he's only an all-time really good fighter. Bradley....we'll have to wait and see after he fights Pac.

                Also, can I ask you this??? Were more people giving Hatton a chance to beat Mayweather, than are giving Bradley a chance at beating Pacquiao??? Ask yourself that.

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                • DIB42
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                  #28
                  Heres how the fight goes if we're talking the Hatton that fought floyd and more, bradley tries his awkward movement, Hatton gets inside works the body, bradley uses his head, hatton punches bradley in the nuts. Hatton wins 7rounds with one round a draw because of a point deduction from Hatton. May win more.

                  Prime hatton outbrawls bradley.

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                  • KickAzz
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                    #29
                    bradley fought at 147 lbs already and beat Agrebu easily. Hatton fought collazo and struggled mightily.

                    bradley carries 147 lbs better therefore a fight with bradley gets more credit

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                    • puga
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                      #30
                      bradley is way better fighter than hatton...ricky had more balls tho...

                      still, bradley would be the better win...

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