Top 5 greatest welterweights ?

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  • LeG00N
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    #11
    I'm glad Mantequilla's getting so much love

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    • Barry Halls
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      #12
      Originally posted by Larryx2011
      Ray Robinson

      Henry Armstrong

      Kid Galivan

      ray leonard

      Jose Napoles
      agree with this list, but got leonard above gavilan.

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        #13
        Originally posted by dosepulgada
        I better put Pac as the top Superfeatherweight. But he's among the top 10 WW IMO.
        if serious this is among the worst **** I've ever read. Worse even than putting Pac at top10 atg p4p.

        Hes not top25 ww. Not even close. Not even sure hes top50 ww.

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        • daggum
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          #14
          Originally posted by Larryx2011
          based on what??

          drained oscar
          cotto at 145
          clottey
          shane


          how the **** is that top 10????

          floyds ww resume ****s on his and he aint even close to top 10
          it does? judah was a complete failure at welter and only has 1 good win. baldomir was a complete failure and his only good win is over judah. ortiz only has 1 good win so we don't know how well he will do against other elite welters yet and pac beat mosley a little after floyd so not much difference there.

          i'd rather have proven welters like cotto and clottey then baldomir and judah. cotto fought everyone in the division and had 1 loss omg! clottey fought everyone in the division and could have been undefeated going into the pac fight if things swung a little differently. he was easily beating baldomir until he was unfairly dq'd, the cotto fight was very close and i had him winning by a point and the margarito fight was super close and i scored it a draw.

          the point is cotto and clottey proved they could hang with the elites and even if they lost it was only to the best in super competitive fights. baldomir and judah had 1 win and got dominated over and over again. they proved they could not hang with the elite and were just flukes. pac and floyd both beat a shopworn mosley and even if you throw in hatton and marquez i don't see how floyd's resume is better at all. he has more fights but more fights does not equal better. i'll take the quality of pacs wins over established welters instead of floyds over 1 win wonders.
          Last edited by daggum; 10-06-2011, 01:18 AM.

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          • intoccabile
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            #15
            By Cliff Rold - For any new boxing fan, the time is not long before a fellow fan points out a magic number which grows more mythologized with time: eight. As in boxing’s original eight weight classes. The number represents in the mind of many a time when the sport was compressed into fields which couldn’t help but be talented, couldn’t help but draw crowds, because there were so few places on the scale to go. They were divisions marked by single champions ever challenged by a depth of contenders today’s seventeen weight classes rarely know.


            I agree with this top 5.

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            • jvsnypes
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              #16
              1.Ray Leonard
              2.T. Hearns
              3.Benetiz
              4.Whitaker
              5.De La Hoya/Trinidad

              Never saw SRR at welterweight only middleweight. I never saw anyone fight at 147 until the 80's. So my list may not be as good as someone who saw fighters from back in the day.

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              • The Surgeon
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                #17
                1. Ray Robinson
                2. Henry Armstrong
                3. Ray Leonard
                4. Joe Walcott
                5. Kid Gavilan

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                • J Dubb II 330
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dosepulgada
                  I better put Pac as the top Superfeatherweight. But he's among the top 10 WW IMO.
                  Pac the top Super Feather ???? Are you kidding, Floyd is the greatest Superfeather of all time hands down no question.

                  As for pac being top 10 ww, he's not even top 20, he didnt sweep that division at all.

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                  • J Dubb II 330
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                    #19
                    Pacs resume is not better than Floyds at WW. period.

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                    • The Surgeon
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Surgeon
                      1. Ray Robinson
                      2. Henry Armstrong
                      3. Ray Leonard
                      4. Joe Walcott
                      5. Kid Gavilan
                      I think Charlie Burley is worth a mention, people tend not to credit his WW work so much

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