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Originally posted by Slick561 View PostFunny how people say Floyd is scared of Martinez and he said he is interested and yet Pac has said nothing when Martinez called him out because he is so called too big but yet he can fight margarito who is bigger, instead people are being clouded by the fact he fights guys who are bigger when in all reality they are big with little skill
Interested in fighting Sergio??? ...That's some FUNNY ****!!!
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If either Pac or May ends up fighting Martinez - and no one can argue that he is CEARLY bigger, if one of them wins against him, that would be HUGE considering they would add another title and division. Mayweather's style is all wrong for Martinez. Mayweather would win a lopsided decision. Pac might have a rougher time. Styles make fights.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI don't see what Floyd said was wrong? People say that he was too big for Juan Manuel Marquez (the man who gave Pac his toughest fights to date) but not too big for Pac, who in all actuality is the same size as Juan Manuel Marquez? How can Floyd be scared of a guy (Pac) who edged by a guy (Marquez) who Floyd beat easily after over a year of inactivity? Pac is about the same size as JMM but he's fighting JMM at the same catchweight Mayweather (who was considered bigger) did a year or so later? You don't have to be a die hard Pac or Floyd fan to see that Floyd ain't and don't have no reason to be scared of Pac. Name me one performance since Pac been at WW that should have Floyd scared? Pac ain't even become the Lineal champion at 147 since he been there and Mosley was calling him out when he was number 1 at the time. Pac/Roach didn't want to fight him. Pac didn't even beat any top WW's.
Cotto was at a catchweight and Clotty lost to Cotto who Pac beat prior. What should Floyd be scared of? I don't care what anyone says. Eventhough I know this fight ain't going to happen because of Arum. IF the Floyd/Pac fight did happen. Pac would get beat up. Name me one thing Pac does better than Floyd technically? From a boxing analytical stand point. I just wouldn't bet against Floyd if that fight happens. In regards to Pac accepting the tests. Why should I believe that he did when someone from his camp is always flip flopping and changing their stance up? Either you accept it or you don't.
You are very wrong to say Pac has NOT fought top Welterweight Contenders:
COTTO
MARGO,,,and if Jr needed anything to frighten him from Pac is the whupping he put on the Game Margo breaking his ORBITAL BONE,,,hmmmmm we know JR don't like his face messed up, don't we,,,,cried about the knot on his bald head, he wouldn't get those knots if he didn't turn his body like a cur dog. Remind me of when Jimmy Young fought George Foreman, about the time Foreman was gonna put the Whup AZZ on Young he would duck under the ropes , hahaha
by the way , hahaha, did you see the look on everyones face in your sig where Jr is poleaxing Ortiz ??? They ALL WERE IN DISBELIEF !!!!!! and Sickened by it. Question to you sir is did you like it ? yes, no ?
Clottey was a top contender
Look what Pac did to Jrs so called leftovers,,,WOW he slaughtered them
LOOK at what JR has done to OTHERS LEFTOVERS ,,,all he has fought is someones leftovers outside of what two fighters, this is the lamest excuse I have ever read about.
Would you dare to say that Leonard and Hearns spoke about not fighting each other because someone is fighting their leftovers,,,,
is that not the lamest thing you ever heard about
JR has only fought one true young top welterweight and he was one of the alphabet champs,,,was whupped in round 2 and especially round 4. Jr was put on the ropes and getting his bald head nailed by the right and left of Ortiz when Ortiz was WRONG TO head butt,,,,,,,we think what the outcome would be like but WE WILL NEVER KNOW !!!!!
We know that JR will NEVER GIVE THAT BOY Another shot, hahahaha he knows more than you or I that ORTIZ will KO his ass.
To the finer points of your challenge:
Jr. :
1. He has slipped,,,its all his fault,, he should have fought the best instead of taking a rest
2. His accuracy has greatly slipped. You have to play the fight in slowmo but I warn you if you are really tight with Jr you won't like what you see. HE missed by a mile on several punches and looked desperate at times with his combinations. Again you need to see SlowMO
3. When Ortiz punched Jr IMMEDIATELY went to the back to the ropes and in his shell,,,,ORTIZ broke thru that shell in round 4 and was putting it to Jrs AZZ
4. Jr took shots he wouldn't have taken long ago.
5. All Jr is a right handed speedster that is losing his grip :
on speed
On legs
on ability to land
on abiltiy to guard and block
proof is ORTIZ ,,watch it in SLOW MO
ORTIZ thru looping shots not straight shots
Pac:
Pac will show us in the JMM fight if he has slipped , if he is better than he used to be, if the move up in weight has helped or hurt,,,JMM is the barometer.
Pac is Speed
Pac has GREAT POWER
Pac will land easily on the JR of today
ITS gonna be JRs fault if he will get off the excuse train and fight Pac in MAY !! Cause the later Jr waits the worse it will be.
Jr. is no longer the great fighter he was, Pac has NOT SLIPPED, and again if he has we will see it in the JMM fight.
IF PAC were fighting JR instead of JMM, I would say after seeing the ORTIZ fight that PAC will KO JR easily between rounds 6-9.
summary:
I would rather see them fight sooner or later to keep the excuses down
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Originally posted by saguirre057 View Postserious, the dude is a clown and a coward!!! I really dont know how even his own race could be a fan of this clown,...he makes them look ******.
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Originally posted by twosweethooks View PostAll this yammering about tests , whose the biggest and who is scared is nonsense and all it is doing is cheating us the fans out of the fight we all want to see.
You are very wrong to say Pac has NOT fought top Welterweight Contenders:
COTTO
MARGO,,,and if Jr needed anything to frighten him from Pac is the whupping he put on the Game Margo breaking his ORBITAL BONE,,,hmmmmm we know JR don't like his face messed up, don't we,,,,cried about the knot on his bald head, he wouldn't get those knots if he didn't turn his body like a cur dog. Remind me of when Jimmy Young fought George Foreman, about the time Foreman was gonna put the Whup AZZ on Young he would duck under the ropes , hahaha
by the way , hahaha, did you see the look on everyones face in your sig where Jr is poleaxing Ortiz ??? They ALL WERE IN DISBELIEF !!!!!! and Sickened by it. Question to you sir is did you like it ? yes, no ?
Clottey was a top contender
Look what Pac did to Jrs so called leftovers,,,WOW he slaughtered them
LOOK at what JR has done to OTHERS LEFTOVERS ,,,all he has fought is someones leftovers outside of what two fighters, this is the lamest excuse I have ever read about.
Would you dare to say that Leonard and Hearns spoke about not fighting each other because someone is fighting their leftovers,,,,
is that not the lamest thing you ever heard about
JR has only fought one true young top welterweight and he was one of the alphabet champs,,,was whupped in round 2 and especially round 4. Jr was put on the ropes and getting his bald head nailed by the right and left of Ortiz when Ortiz was WRONG TO head butt,,,,,,,we think what the outcome would be like but WE WILL NEVER KNOW !!!!!
We know that JR will NEVER GIVE THAT BOY Another shot, hahahaha he knows more than you or I that ORTIZ will KO his ass.
To the finer points of your challenge:
Jr. :
1. He has slipped,,,its all his fault,, he should have fought the best instead of taking a rest
2. His accuracy has greatly slipped. You have to play the fight in slowmo but I warn you if you are really tight with Jr you won't like what you see. HE missed by a mile on several punches and looked desperate at times with his combinations. Again you need to see SlowMO
3. When Ortiz punched Jr IMMEDIATELY went to the back to the ropes and in his shell,,,,ORTIZ broke thru that shell in round 4 and was putting it to Jrs AZZ
4. Jr took shots he wouldn't have taken long ago.
5. All Jr is a right handed speedster that is losing his grip :
on speed
On legs
on ability to land
on abiltiy to guard and block
proof is ORTIZ ,,watch it in SLOW MO
ORTIZ thru looping shots not straight shots
Pac:
Pac will show us in the JMM fight if he has slipped , if he is better than he used to be, if the move up in weight has helped or hurt,,,JMM is the barometer.
Pac is Speed
Pac has GREAT POWER
Pac will land easily on the JR of today
ITS gonna be JRs fault if he will get off the excuse train and fight Pac in MAY !! Cause the later Jr waits the worse it will be.
Jr. is no longer the great fighter he was, Pac has NOT SLIPPED, and again if he has we will see it in the JMM fight.
IF PAC were fighting JR instead of JMM, I would say after seeing the ORTIZ fight that PAC will KO JR easily between rounds 6-9.
summary:
I would rather see them fight sooner or later to keep the excuses down
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Originally posted by Slick561 View PostWhy cant Pacquiao accept usda, he seem to think they have an issue with him for no reason
BUT... I truly believe that these two are just building the fight into one of the most sought out events in sports history. They have made this potential bout so controversial and so news-worthy that for damn sure it will top the record books. Say what you will for either of them and their records, but they both need each other to lay speculation to rest. We will see the fight very soon...
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Originally posted by twosweethooks View PostAll this yammering about tests , whose the biggest and who is scared is nonsense and all it is doing is cheating us the fans out of the fight we all want to see.
You are very wrong to say Pac has NOT fought top Welterweight Contenders:
COTTO
MARGO,,,and if Jr needed anything to frighten him from Pac is the whupping he put on the Game Margo breaking his ORBITAL BONE,,,hmmmmm we know JR don't like his face messed up, don't we,,,,cried about the knot on his bald head, he wouldn't get those knots if he didn't turn his body like a cur dog. Remind me of when Jimmy Young fought George Foreman, about the time Foreman was gonna put the Whup AZZ on Young he would duck under the ropes , hahaha
by the way , hahaha, did you see the look on everyones face in your sig where Jr is poleaxing Ortiz ??? They ALL WERE IN DISBELIEF !!!!!! and Sickened by it. Question to you sir is did you like it ? yes, no ?
Clottey was a top contender
Look what Pac did to Jrs so called leftovers,,,WOW he slaughtered them
LOOK at what JR has done to OTHERS LEFTOVERS ,,,all he has fought is someones leftovers outside of what two fighters, this is the lamest excuse I have ever read about.
Would you dare to say that Leonard and Hearns spoke about not fighting each other because someone is fighting their leftovers,,,,
is that not the lamest thing you ever heard about
JR has only fought one true young top welterweight and he was one of the alphabet champs,,,was whupped in round 2 and especially round 4. Jr was put on the ropes and getting his bald head nailed by the right and left of Ortiz when Ortiz was WRONG TO head butt,,,,,,,we think what the outcome would be like but WE WILL NEVER KNOW !!!!!
We know that JR will NEVER GIVE THAT BOY Another shot, hahahaha he knows more than you or I that ORTIZ will KO his ass.
To the finer points of your challenge:
Jr. :
1. He has slipped,,,its all his fault,, he should have fought the best instead of taking a rest
2. His accuracy has greatly slipped. You have to play the fight in slowmo but I warn you if you are really tight with Jr you won't like what you see. HE missed by a mile on several punches and looked desperate at times with his combinations. Again you need to see SlowMO
3. When Ortiz punched Jr IMMEDIATELY went to the back to the ropes and in his shell,,,,ORTIZ broke thru that shell in round 4 and was putting it to Jrs AZZ
4. Jr took shots he wouldn't have taken long ago.
5. All Jr is a right handed speedster that is losing his grip :
on speed
On legs
on ability to land
on abiltiy to guard and block
proof is ORTIZ ,,watch it in SLOW MO
ORTIZ thru looping shots not straight shots
Pac:
Pac will show us in the JMM fight if he has slipped , if he is better than he used to be, if the move up in weight has helped or hurt,,,JMM is the barometer.
Pac is Speed
Pac has GREAT POWER
Pac will land easily on the JR of today
ITS gonna be JRs fault if he will get off the excuse train and fight Pac in MAY !! Cause the later Jr waits the worse it will be.
Jr. is no longer the great fighter he was, Pac has NOT SLIPPED, and again if he has we will see it in the JMM fight.
IF PAC were fighting JR instead of JMM, I would say after seeing the ORTIZ fight that PAC will KO JR easily between rounds 6-9.
summary:
I would rather see them fight sooner or later to keep the excuses down
Pac is an exciting fighter but how can people be all on this dude when his title fights at 147 and 154 were at catchweights of 145 and 150? Pac is fighting JMM at a catchweight when them guys are the same size didn't Floyd show that JMM couldn't hang at the higher weights according to Pac fans? It's funny how Pac fans try to discredit Floyd wins over the same opponents Pac fought after. Manny and Roach ducked Shane who was number 1 in the division after Margarito for a Cotto who was beat down and battle worn by Margarito & Clottey. Manny's whole strength is his speed and accumulation of punches. Do you actually think that Pac would touch Floyd up more than Floyd would touch him up? People are talking about Floyd is off of his game because he got hit a couple of times by Mosley and Ortiz but he was dominating them dudes. Pac gets ****** up on the reg. You already know who my money is on once Bob Arum makes the fight and stop robbing lil Pac.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 10-04-2011, 11:50 AM.
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