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I love all this talk about Martinez being overrated.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostHe already earned his P4P spot. And, he doesn't need to fight B-Hop....He just needs to fight the best in his weight-class...Whether it's 154 or 160.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostI am thoroughly impressed with Barker. The guy came with a solid gameplan & to win. He looked good while he was competitive. I believe Barker gives the entire side at 160 a serious run for the money.
At no point did he "try to win"
He just tried to look better then what was expected of him
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Martinez is the 160 lb champ cause he seized the opportunity of a title on a higher weight class. So far the most money for him is at MW. He has been doing what he has to do in a fight to win.
If he is so over-rated then why is nobody stepping up to the challenge?
Barker gave him a good fight and still got KOed. Not everybody has Barker's style
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostIf he's so damn overrated, then why do the top 2 pfp fighters refuse to say his name for a match at 154? Since he's so damn overrated.
Pacman going 12 against a shot 40 year old Mosley was not a pfp performance.
Why did Floyd resort to 2 cheap shots in a fairly competitive fight against a 24 year old?
I hope that 1 of those #1 & 2 decide to grow some nutts & meat Martinez at 154 to see what's really up.
Ps. Darren Barker was clearly a better fighter than we all thought. Give the man some credit, instead of trying to discredit Martinez.
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SMH... OP can not be anymore clueless? Mayweather fought Oscar because of its status as the biggest fight ever and the money it generated - he didn't even weigh 154 yet he still fought there because Oscar pretty much called the shots. It's obviously a one off fight at that weight just like RJJ @ HW. MAYWEATHER isn't even a big WW so don't be stupid and expect him to fight @ 154 against a legit MW.. Manny on the other hand is a very small WW too and he fought his 154 title @ 150.
Martinez not being a big draw doesn't help the cause either.... even though it would be a really good win the risk/$ is skewed very much towards risk. Hate these idiots who jump on the Martinez bandwagon and I like Martinez... they expect Floyd and Manny to move up when they can't even weigh @ 154 yet they say nothing when Martinez won't move up - Martinez's reasoning is that he weighed 165 so fighting Hopkins @ 170 would not be an option yet Mayweather fought Oscar when he weighed in at a mere 150 lbs against a legit JMW @ 154.
Neither Floyd or Manny should have to fight Martinez at allLast edited by Phil Ivey; 10-03-2011, 09:33 AM.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostYeah he's overrated, but I'd love you to explain to me how a fighter that stuggled & looked clumsy against a shot 40 year old Mosley would beat him. Floyd would be competitive but he still looses. Pacman just gets steamrolled, that's why he's fighting Marquez at 147.
Sorry bro, neither is going to fight Martinez, but what I saw from Martinez Saturday night loses to Mayweather at 154 8 days a weak.
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Barker is a solid boxer he deserves the credit, but he wasn't ready for a fight like Martinez and it showed by him being ko'd.
I don't know why people are moaning it was a decent fight a slight bit boring a times but i was alright.
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