Where do you rate Vitali Klitschko among ATG heavyweights?

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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #161
    Top 10-15, that's based more on h2h ability than resume, he did have bad luck with injuries, his resume lacks the depth of Wladamir's

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    • hweightblogger
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      #162
      Originally posted by ToyBulldog
      Spinks is an ATG overall when you consider his weight jumping success. Winning two championships especially in LHW and HW is huge. I think Manny Pacquiao is an ATG but does that mean I think he is an ATG at lightweight? No, he doesn't have the depth of resume in that weight class.

      Vitali doesn't have the depth of resume at heavyweight to be ATG. Just the way it is. Roberto Duran is an ATG because he ruled a weight class for years and was able to do even more. Vitali hasn't even ruled his own weight how can he be an ATG
      Now you introduce even more invented reasons why someone could be ATG.

      * He sucessfully jumped weight classes
      * He has depth
      * He ruled his division

      Jeezes.
      Last edited by hweightblogger; 03-03-2013, 09:46 PM.

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        #163
        Originally posted by hweightblogger
        Now you introduce even more invented reasons why someone could be ATG.

        * He sucessfully jumped weight classes
        * He has depth
        * He ruled his division

        Jeezes.
        That's how you become an ATG. Or by beating other great fighters. Vitali failed to do this. He might get into the Hall of Fame though

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        • Barry Halls
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          #164
          You become ATG by beating other ATG fighters. There's some exception to this if you beat a lot of just outside of ATG fighters or you dominate the best in your division for an insane amount of time.

          Vitalis resume is just too poor, and Wladimir has beat most of the best fighters in the division.

          But no that note, if you can call anyone topx an ATG then by all means Vitali is an ATG. And so is David Haye. He's probably in the top100 CW of all time?
          Lets say top500 to be safe.

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          • Code 206
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            #165
            16-20. Every time he fought an equal he lost, but its hard to discount his dominance for so long despite the fact that Heavyweight boxing has been a joke since Lennox hung up his gloves.

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #166
              Vitali is clearly a HW ATG.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #167
                Originally posted by Freedom2013
                I see the largest percentage of people put him in the 11-15 category.
                That is an insult to our intelligence. 11-15? For Wladimir, maybe. Vitali is top 30-50

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                • The Hammer
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                  #168
                  Some people like Vitali and some do not, but I think many will remember his name in a hundred years.

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                  • sdcluser
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Freedom2013
                    Some people like Vitali and some do not, but I think many will remember his name in a hundred years.
                    Goddamn it. Give it a rest would ya?

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                      #170
                      11-20. probably closer to 20. i don't have a HW top 10 hashed out. i used to have one posted up in history, but can't seem to find it. vitali certainly wasn't in it.

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