can roy beat glen johnson?

**mic573** · 10-26-2005, 05:02 PM

I don't think he has the hunger or confidence to beat a non-stop attacking fighter like Johnson. He even said it himself after the rubbermatch with Tarver. Roy's confidence is completely shot. The man actually believed he was superman and that he couldn't be touched but then Tarver put his feet back on the ground with one shot.

**Red_Menace** · 10-26-2005, 06:32 PM

I'm not so sure that it's his confidence. Despite hearing about Jones being afraid of being knocked out, the few times he got rocked in the last fight with Tarver, he started pressing rather than backing up. In the 11th, Tarver almost had him and Roy started pressing.

I think it's more like Tyson. He just doesn't want it anymore. You can be all pumped during training, wanting to reclaim old glory, but I imagine it's something totally different once you step into the ring, and have to work for it. You probably know a minute after the bell rings whether you really want to be in the ring or not, and I'm not sure he does.

**Pac Man Fan 83** · 10-26-2005, 06:53 PM

I think Roy can still win some fights and be entertaining to watch, but I can't see him beating Glen Johnson. Johnson is relentless.

**dino** · 10-26-2005, 07:17 PM

johnson is relentless but hes not 6'3 like tarver...roy beat clinton woods whos relentless

**Tarver is my dad** · 10-26-2005, 09:01 PM

Roy Jones before 2003- Really believed that he was Superman. Thought he could do anything that any other boxer couldn't do, and sometimes did it. Could have easily have beaten Glen Johnson, may have had slight trouble with my dad, like he did with Eric Harding, but still could've convincingly beaten my dad.

Roy Jones of 2005- Lost his hunger. Still in good shape, good speed and strength but doesn't have that energy and drive anymore. Still probably could beat 90% of the light heavyweights. But that magic and drama is gone.

**psychopath** · 10-26-2005, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by dino

i thought roy was purely washed up..but in the last fight with tarver..he still had some hand speed and sorta quick legs..i think he can beat glen johnson...all he needs is a tune up for confidence..then fight glen johnson

OH yes definitely, Johnson is no Traver and based on Jones' losing effort against Traver he can still beat Johnson.

**.::|ULTIMATE|::.** · 10-26-2005, 09:11 PM

No, Roy cannot beat glen and couldnt have beat him even before 2003.

Roy for a long time before tarver even showed up into the picture had tendencies to freeze up when the other fighter showed any initiative. The thing with Roy was for a long time he fought a bunch of bums who were scared before they even laced the gloves on. Once they got in the ring they froze up and let roy pop them. But u look at plenty of roy's pre-tarver fights u see him freezing up when his opponents showed any initiative. Unfortunately his opponents too believed he was superman and would stop pressing.

Sorry but Glen would have exposed Roy's weaknesses earlier if the oportunities were given to him.

**Riptor** · 10-26-2005, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.

No, Roy cannot beat glen and couldnt have beat him even before 2003.

Roy for a long time before tarver even showed up into the picture had tendencies to freeze up when the other fighter showed any initiative. The thing with Roy was for a long time he fought a bunch of bums who were scared before they even laced the gloves on. Once they got in the ring they froze up and let roy pop them. But u look at plenty of roy's pre-tarver fights u see him freezing up when his opponents showed any initiative. Unfortunately his opponents too believed he was superman and would stop pressing.

Sorry but Glen would have exposed Roy's weaknesses earlier if the oportunities were given to him.

Right on man. Even prior to him losing his will to do it anymore. Glen Johnson would have beat him. Glen is the kind of fighter that is made to beat Roy. His style just counters roys perfectly.

**Tarver is my dad** · 10-26-2005, 09:46 PM

I disagree. Glenn Johnson does have a style that bothers Jones because of his constant pressure. But the Roy Jones before 2003 was an amazing fighter that many people haven't seen and I believe would have beaten Glenn Johnson. Also, Which fights did Roy Jones froze when his opponents took initiative?

can roy beat glen johnson?