boxing for self defense

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the problem I have with this thread is people think that street fighting is the way to go do I do this should I do that to be better at it. But the best thing to know how to do is shut the **** up, walk away, and dont sweat the punks who think they are tough because your the better person for just not doing it. What is gained when you fight nothing? I mean dont get me wrong I have fought before havent in some years now but I never gained anything out of it, worst case senario you have to fight and you dont know how ohh well you got beat up you will be fine, that should teach you not to want to fight.

I agree to an extent, street fighting is pointless but where i grew up its was something you needed to be good at, its impossible to turn your back on someone and walk away, then you would get a real good beating.......

One thing about street fight is that you can seriously hurt someone without much effort, i've been in that situation a few times when i've been attacked, i'd be in prison now if it wasnt for the self defence law.

If someone feels unsafe in the street they need to learn self defence. The law(in the UK) states that you can only use reasonable force while defending yourself (which in our courts mean one or two punches) which isnt a lot unless your trained to fight.

[Soldier01]

I dont agree, i did Muay Thai for a few years and its not the most effective combat sport in the street. I think Thai fighters are too light on their feet and their balance isnt great for the street. I also think kicks dont hurt enough to be effective a street fight, they only cause problems when to the head and thats far to risky in the street, especially when you cant guarantee a good fighting surface. The average Thai fighter doesnt punch as effective as a boxer, from experience the average thai fighter is far less powerful. BUT..... i do like Thai fighters, they are very tough and i love an elbow in a street fight, its very effective and powerful in certain situations.

Against your average street opponent you cant beat boxing as self defence, boxers in general have better defensive awareness, balance, footwork, hand speed and power.

Not to down play the school you went to or your experience but, it all depends on where you go I guess. Where I go that seems to be some of the things they continuously want you to strive at...Balance,power. AS far as the kicks, Again it depends on where and who teaches you. I've been always taught to go kick to the lower part of the body because it's less risky like you pointed out.

I've personally watched fighters get KO'D because they were set up by the lower kick. I guess it more or less depends on what you feel more comfortable with but, I don't agree about the power thing because between a boxer and a thai fighter we basically have the exact same style of throwing punches.

Now a days American Thai Fighters have become more efficient than Thai fighters from Thailand because we incorporate more boxing technique.

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Not to down play the school you went to but, it all depends on where you go I guess. Where I go that seesm to be some of the things they continuously want you to learn...Balance,power. AS far as the kicks, Again it depends on where and who teaches you. I've been always taught to go kick to the lower part of the body because it's less risky like you pointed out.

I've personally watched fighters get KO'D because they were set up by the lower kick. I guess it more or less depends on what you feel more comfortable with but, I don't agree about the power thing because between a boxer and a thai fighter we basically have the exact same style of throwing punches.

It was a good Muay Thai gym, i just dont think you can have perfect balance when you are kicking, even when its low. I only used low leg kicks but you still leave yourself open and slighty off balance.

I'm not saying Thai fighters arent good in street fights, i know they would murder most people with ease, but from my personal experience i think boxing is more effective(i'm sure you will disagree ).

You also have to consider legal problems with street fighting, if your defending yourself with fists you can pretend your not a trained fighter in court, but if you use kicks its very obvious your a trained fighter. Trained fighters get a rough time with judges, especially when they find out what grade fighter you are(i'd imagine after two years you have a high grade).

[rocco1252]

I agree to an extent, street fighting is pointless but where i grew up its was something you needed to be good at, its impossible to turn your back on someone and walk away, then you would get a real good beating.......

One thing about street fight is that you can seriously hurt someone without much effort, i've been in that situation a few times when i've been attacked, i'd be in prison now if it wasnt for the self defence law.

If someone feels unsafe in the street they need to learn self defence. The law(in the UK) states that you can only use reasonable force while defending yourself (which in our courts mean one or two punches) which isnt a lot unless your trained to fight.

Agreed but answer me this. Why would you be in a fight to begin with? Someone on the street doesnt just walk up to you and say ***** I'm gonna kick your ass, whatever to that extent. You have to have a reason first to want to fight someone.

Self defense is always good to know dont get me wrong but people put it out there as I want to learn to box so I can street fight better will this help? I see that and think to myself man this ****er is ******, my trainer told me if you fight outside of the ring while your training with me your gone, so I never fought, and havent been in one since and as I said I am in the middle of the city on the streets all the time and people dont just want to start fights with me it's not like I'm 15 anymore, understand where I am coming from?

I am not saying dont ever get into fights that they will never happen but most often if a person wants to fight 90 percent of the time it's talk, so that 10% of the time it's the real thing so yeah you have to fight, and no I dont recommend turning your back on someon if your about to fight them, what I meant was if someone is giving you **** and by you opening your mouth it's going to put the situation over board and a fight is going to occur because of it then just walk away dont say anything.

[legacyofbrutality]

well, ive trained in muay thai and also learned some grappling manuevers cuz the school was teaching some of that **** too, from what ive experienced grappling maneuvers are almost as effective as boxing in a street fight...and in muay thai you'd be better off throwing the elbows and knees like they teach you...just my two cents, oh and yea whoever said fighting is pointless i 100% agree with. If it gets physical u have every right to fight back but if theyre just verbally attacking u, which is how most fights on the street are started, then walking away and being the bigger man is the better thing to do.

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Agreed but answer me this. Why would you be in a fight to begin with? Someone on the street doesnt just walk up to you and say ***** I'm gonna kick your ass, whatever to that extent. You have to have a reason first to want to fight someone.

Self defense is always good to know dont get me wrong but people put it out there as I want to learn to box so I can street fight better will this help? I see that and think to myself man this ****er is ******, my trainer told me if you fight outside of the ring while your training with me your gone, so I never fought, and havent been in one since and as I said I am in the middle of the city on the streets all the time and people dont just want to start fights with me it's not like I'm 15 anymore, understand where I am coming from?

I am not saying dont ever get into fights that they will never happen but most often if a person wants to fight 90 percent of the time it's talk, so that 10% of the time it's the real thing so yeah you have to fight, and no I dont recommend turning your back on someon if your about to fight them, what I meant was if someone is giving you **** and by you opening your mouth it's going to put the situation over board and a fight is going to occur because of it then just walk away dont say anything.

You would be suprised how quickly how things can get out of control, i havent been in any fights recently, last time out my mate got jumped by 4 men and i had to help his ass. The men thought he was someone else who sold them bad acid, they were laying into and i had to save him. That was out of my control because they were ****ing him up badly.

The fight before that someone just walked up to me and tried to hit me, you might not think thats normal but it was, i didnt do anythng, i'd never seen the guy before but is was in the wrong place at the wrong time. i've been attacked a lot, it was just like that when i was younger, everyone wanted to be top dog which i totally pathetic but its how it was.

I've coached quite a few people, i've always told people some techniques for street fighting but i always say its for self defence and not to be a thug. I think a lot people who go into boxing to be better street fighters learn that its not worth it, they learn their place. Learning to box makes people aware of the danger other people can cause them, that puts most fighter i know off street fighting.

I was a little wild as a kid, i did fight a lot. I honestly think the main reason i stopped fighting is because i dont feel the need too, i've fought a lot in the ring, i've learnt to respect other people. Boxing has made me confident in my ability to fight, so i dont feel i need to prove that.

[Kayo]

the last time i tried to be the bigger man didnt work out for me this kid wanted me to beat someone else up cause he got into a fight with one of his friends n i told him i'd have no part in it so the the next day a bunch of his friends show up at my school.

I walked away they came up behind i got cracked in the face 3 times I stumbled a bit cause i didnt kno what was going on then a bunch of people came down n they peaced. But my Point is that their are people that start **** cause they think their tough but usualy end up gettin floored or shot in the end.

[ShowStopper]

Straight punches rock in street fights.

[HipsterRan]

Straight punches rock in street fights.

your dead on with that , most people in a street fight swing wild ,and are alot easier to see comming, a nice stright right hand to the face work`s great ! sometimes

[TheManWhoCan]

These threads bug me to. Should I learn boxing to kick some ass in a street fight? No.

I was always taught that it's better to know you're in a fight sooner then the other person. So then you can KO him and be done with it. I don't like people calling me *******, ******, etc. for no reason, so I don't just walk away. If you encounter this alot, just confront the guy who said it. He'll probably have nothing to say once you're in his face. If it does come to a fight, the boxing helps. Just make sure that you hit him first and make sure he doesn't get up. Call me violent if you want, but that's usually how it goes with me. Interestingly enough, I've been doing boxing for like 6 years now and haven't gotten into 1 fight since the training began. And only 2 or 3 confrontations. Once I started training, I stopped being a **** magnet.