SERIOUS QUESTION: Is Victor Ortiz The Third Best Welterweight?

[BmoreBrawler]

The WW division is actually pretty good and deep, its just that there is one top 25 and one top 50 fighter all time in the division.

[Biolink]

I think him and Zaveck would have a nice scrap.

[Visceral]

Until Berto beats him in a rematch (not saying that's going to happen) or Khan moves up and gets a big win against someone like Berto, Yes. I think Victor is the 3rd best WW right now.

[Gino Ros]

I think him and Zaveck would have a nice scrap.

I would actually like Ortiz-Matthysse.

Lucas seems unpunkable.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I would say Berto,he just won the IBF belt...

[Gino Ros]

I would say Berto,he just won the IBF belt...

How can Berto be better than Ortiz when Ortiz soundly beat Berto just a few months ago?

[Rome-By-Ko]

How can Berto be better than Ortiz when Ortiz soundly beat Berto just a few months ago?

I would rank Berto over Ortiz because he just won a belt,and Ortiz just got KTFO..I think Jones is better then both but I can't rank him num 3 because he has done nothing at WW...

[jrosales13]

I would rank Berto over Ortiz because he just won a belt,and Ortiz just got KTFO..I think Jones is better then both but I can't rank him num 3 because he has done nothing at WW...

Really does a belt mean that much, that you can jump head of a guy that clearly beat you earlier in the year?

[Leohappy]

title does mean a lot in a div where there is 2 belts left to go around most of the time.
imo berto is 3rd right now. ortiz is still on his path of redemption, having beaten berto, and quit against floyd. makes me wonder if he would actually win a rematch, now that the hunger (for money) is probably less - or gone.

[Weebler I]

Really does a belt mean that much, that you can jump head of a guy that clearly beat you earlier in the year?

the short answer is 'no'