Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia: Victor Ortiz Lost His Head, Nothing New

[Leohappy]

“He was happy that the fight was over,” Garcia said. “You could see it in his face. Come on. If something like that happens to a fighter who is upset and feels that he got cheated, man, he’s going to be fighting and arguing and his whole team is going to be trying to fight the results. Nobody said anything. He was happy, he was smiling. I’m telling you, I think he was happy the fight was over.”

i'd be happy too if they paid me 2,5 mil.$ for 11 minutes and 59 seconds of work.

[LupinIII]

robert garcia is a ******

[snoozuloos]

I dont understand how people can blame mayweather for the way the fight ended. It was all Ortiz's fault that he didnt keep his hands up. It is ortiz's Job as a fighter to keep his hands up, defend & Protect himself at all times. It was Ortiz's Fault because he should have known better & been smarter. That is not mayweathers fault and its not Mayweathers responsibility to tell Ortiz to put his hands up or pay attention when Mayweather starts throwing Punches. It was all Ortiz's doing and thats not even taking into account the Dirty ass intentional Head Butt he Put on Mayweather. Ortiz ****ed over the Fans plain and simple, not mayweather. He did what he said he was going to do. Ortiz did not. PLAIN & SIMPLE. A lot of people on here have Backward ass Logic.

Putting a hand on opponents neck during weigh in could agitate a person pretty much. I was wondering why Floyd was not repremanded for such act. Is such act allowed during weigh in? If so, then why has not it occured before? And if it has, why doesn't occur more often? Is it because Floyd is so special that he can just do anything without fear of repercussion? Floyd might be special in the sport of boxing, but boxing fans are voicing out to chastise such act. Those elbows being placed on opponents neck can agitate a fighter as well.

Wether it's Ortiz fault or not, punching a guy as they were seperating from a hug belongs in a street fight. To do it in sport of boxing, wether legal or not, is unsportsmansip. If this is backward logic, then I'm guilty. But that won't change my logic. It is easy to hate a vile person. PERIOD!!!! Ortiz should have not lower himself down to Floyds level.

[SP1]

Mayweather haters aren't in denial about Ortiz's actions. From what I read everyone seems to think Ortiz is a dumb **** ***** willow.

I hate Mayweather and personally my problem with his actions are that he deprived himself of impressive and dominating performance that would have furthered his legacy.

He had the fight under control, was killing Ortiz with the right hand, and was well on his way to finishing him inside the distance. He didn't need to do what he did, it made him look bad, it made boxing look bad and it pissed off a lot of people who paid good money to see a fight that ended in a more dramatic fashion and not the anti-climactic bull**** that they got instead.

Cut the nonsense already dude. You know damn well you wouldn't have given Floyd any credit for beating Victor. Infact, you would have criticised Floyd for fighting Victor in the first place. Floyd beating Victor in an impressive fasion would have added nothing to his legacy.

His performances against future HOF's like Mosley and Marquez deserve more credit than anything. Victor Ortiz will be forgotten by the time Floyd fights next. The same way people over look the Hatton fight, they will over look Victor as another poor opponent.

[4Corners]

If I am not mistaken, didn't Floyd do the same to Shane Mosley when he tried to wrestle Floyd and throw him to the ground. Than Mosley tried to make up and the ref motioned them together, and Mayweather popped him with a straight right. Mosley didn't go down.

Teddy Atlas said it best the other day on Jim Rome for sure. Ortiz's headbutt started the chaos and Mayweather took retaliated like any fighter would. The only problem I have with what Mayweather did was the fact that we didn't get to see Floyd mentally and physcially break Ortiz down even more so. I laugh my ass off at the FLoyd haters who are saying Ortiz won the 2nd round and was winning the 4th. You guys crack me up! Floyd landed two times are many punches in the 2nd (Ortiz best round) and he had landed over 20 punches to Ortiz 8 or 9 when the headbutt happened with 10 seconds left in the round. Victor's little flurry of punches, where only 2-3 punches landed clean, didn't win him the round. You guys look so hard at when someone gets Floyd on the ropes for 0:20 and lands 4-5 punches, and than you discredit the other 2:40 of the round where Floyd is popping them at will and ends up landing over 20 punches at least. It's funny.

By the way, the only fighters that have maintained success with Floyd are guys bigger than him (Jose Luis Castillo), that can work him on the inside and physically over power Floyd. I see Manny throwing tons of punches, but Floyd will clinch once he feels the heat. Manny will land on him but Floyd can take a punch. If Margarito, Cotto, and even Mosley to an extent were landing counters and right hands on Manny, Floyd will do so much more. The difference is, Margarito, Mosley, and Cotto ate punches and didn't have 1/10 the defense Floyd does. I see Mayweather-Pacquiao playing out like this....Manny comes in and Floyd will hit him with straight right hands (something ALL southpaws get hit with routinely) and counters (something Manny can't seem to figure out), and Manny will get inside on Floyd several times, but he will clinch and hold once Manny lands anything, and the ref will seperate them to continue the fight. Meanwhile, Mayweather hits him with striaght rights and counters, until he has to clinch again. Manny is quick and fast, but so is Floyd, and Floyd avoided danger pretty well against Ortiz several times. The difference is that Manny is not anywhere near big enough to man handle Floyd once he clinches.

[Gino Ros]

Mayweather haters aren't in denial about Ortiz's actions. From what I read everyone seems to think Ortiz is a dumb **** ***** willow.

I hate Mayweather and personally my problem with his actions are that he deprived himself of impressive and dominating performance that would have furthered his legacy.

He had the fight under control, was killing Ortiz with the right hand, and was well on his way to finishing him inside the distance. He didn't need to do what he did, it made him look bad, it made boxing look bad and it pissed off a lot of people who paid good money to see a fight that ended in a more dramatic fashion and not the anti-climactic bull**** that they got instead.

To me, THIS fight furthered his legacy. Floyd has plenty of KO wins; this fight will be talked about in terms of Floyd's ruthlessness and it will elevate his legacy. Remember Gino Ros said this a week after the fight.

Do you view Barrera as a cheater or fouler because he ram-butted Hamed? Or do you view that incident as a man-boy situation?

[Gino Ros]

I laugh my ass off at the FLoyd haters who are saying Ortiz won the 2nd round and was winning the 4th.

This....

...is the beginning of Round 4, and that is when Ortiz got hurt and desperate and tried his billygoat moves.

[Hitman932]

Do you view Barrera as a cheater or fouler because he ram-butted Hamed? Or do you view that incident as a man-boy situation?

Did I say Mayweather was a cheater or fouler? Read my post, I don't believe I did.

As last time I checked Barrera ramming Hamed into the turnbuckle didn't end the fight, nor did it actually hurt Hamed.

In fact Barrera didn't even do it until he had so clearly and thoroughly beaten Hamed that it was simply rubbing salt in the wound.

Some of you morons are so ****ing ****** the way you respond to posts without reading them, put words into other peoples mouths and try to accuse others of insinuating something they didn't even remotely say.

Mayweather only hurt himself with his actions. He shouldn't be fighting guys like Ortiz in the first place and if he is going to he needs to beat them the right way, not by taking the easy way to the win.

[neoz]

Stick to training robert cause that only what your good at.
Ortiz had a smile on his face cause he got his biggest payday and this event give him an opportunity for rematch and more money.

[DJ OxXx]

Putting a hand on opponents neck during weigh in could agitate a person pretty much. I was wondering why Floyd was not repremanded for such act. Is such act allowed during weigh in? If so, then why has not it occured before? And if it has, why doesn't occur more often? Is it because Floyd is so special that he can just do anything without fear of repercussion? Floyd might be special in the sport of boxing, but boxing fans are voicing out to chastise such act. Those elbows being placed on opponents neck can agitate a fighter as well.

Wether it's Ortiz fault or not, punching a guy as they were seperating from a hug belongs in a street fight. To do it in sport of boxing, wether legal or not, is unsportsmansip. If this is backward logic, then I'm guilty. But that won't change my logic. It is easy to hate a vile person. PERIOD!!!! Ortiz should have not lower himself down to Floyds level.

First Of all You shouldn't have Tried Changing the subject bringing up the Weigh-In. It has Absolutely nothing to do with what happened in that ring. But Since you want to go there, what Floyd did at the Weigh-In is not Uncommon. There are many of Fighters out there that have done 10 times worst at the Weigh-Ins. It's called causing Drama to Hype a fight. There's a possibility that Ortiz could have been in on it and went along with it. Even if he wasnt, it was just Floyd Promoting and trying to win Round 0 by trying to gain a mental edge on Ortiz. Like I said, There have been consistently much worst done by other fighters at Weigh-Ins before and that Tradition will still continue.

Please Prove who these BOXING fans are "voicing out to Chastise such act" I think you are confusing boxing fans with People who just hate Mayweather. Real Boxing fans actually understand what went on while people that hate Mayweather are just upset that he won period. It doesn't matter to them how mayweather won to them. If Mayweather would have won by first round TKO, the people that hate Mayweather would still hate him and not even care that he Blew-Out a Dangerous Champion with ease.

You must have not been following boxing very long to think that mayweather was using his elbows to try and hurt ortiz or to try and agitate him. Mayweather puts his Elbows up as a defense mechanism and to get in position. There is no intent to use his elbows in an illegal way. The way may uses his elbows is perfectly legal.

So to you mayweather doing something that he is supposed to do in a boxing match by punching and doing his job belongs in a street fight But ortiz jumping off the canvas like a cannon to intentionally hurt mayweather with his head belongs in a boxing ring? What mayweather did was perfectly legal and him doing his job. What ortiz did is illegal and trying to cheat. Sorry but what Ortiz was doing with his headbutts is called CHEATING, thats why you are not allowed to do it. Ortiz Broke the rules, Floyd Did not. So yes you do have backwards logic and yes I know you wont change your logic because like you admitted, You hate Floyd Mayweather. So at the end of the day it would not have mattered how Floyd would have won you would still hate him because you take who Mayweather is Personal when you should respect him for being the BOXER that he is especially if you are a BOXING FAN. But something tells me you are more of a Fan of Hating Floyd than you are a fan of BOXING.

One more thing Ortiz did not lower himself to mayweathers Level because he's never been above it. What Ortiz did was Cheating, what Mayweather did was not.

- OxXx Out!