Comments Thread For: Not Pound for Pound, But Champ for Champ 2011

[hillbilly]

Pac-phag's, smarten up and learn two things.....

1.) that hype-job Pacquiao aint included in the list for a very good reason

2.) A real fighter is a champion who holds his crown for awhile, matching at least semi-regularly with real top 10 contenders

Good to see that reading comprehension isn't required to post here. Nor logic. You make 1 "point", not 2. And, that's not why he's not listed. You should actually read Rold's article.

That being said, Pacquiao has fought almost all of the top contenders at 147, guys that Mayweather would never fight (Cotto, Clottey, Margarito). One might quibble that the weight wasn't exactly 147, but the fighters were the top guys at 147, regardless of the weight of the fight. Moreover, the guy Mayweather just beat just moved up from 147. That was Ortiz's second fight at 147. Berto is now calling Pacquiao out, but until very recently, Hayman would have never allowed that fight to occur. Berto's loss to Ortiz now makes Hayman probably think there is no harm in another loss especially to the pound for pound king.

And, wow. Pacquiao is always active and almost always fights top contenders. There were the crap matchups against De La Hoya, Mosley and Hatton, but that is only with 20/20 hindsight. Except for Mosley, nobody realized that Pacquaio was going to end these fighters' careers. I think Pacquiao was probably the underdog to De La Hoya (most thought he was way too big) and not the overwhelming favorite against Hatton at 140 (Pacquiao's first fight at that weight class).

Compare that to Mayweather's track record (never fighting and then against old and/or nonwelters), and Pacquiao looks great (despite the issues identified above).

[madsweeney]

Pac-phag's, smarten up and learn two things.....

1.) that hype-job Pacquiao aint included in the list for a very good reason

2.) A real fighter is a champion who holds his crown for awhile, matching at least semi-regularly with real top 10 contenders

Mainly addressing your second point, the funny thing is, 3 of these top 10 only have 1 or less defenses.

[UglyPug]

great write-up rold-gold. . . i like your perspective. . .

haha but HOW are you gonna PLAY B-HOP LIKE THAT?! using that picture of him. . hahahaha. . . playing b-hop like a violin with that unflattering picture. .

[crold1]

great write-up rold-gold. . . i like your perspective. . .

haha but HOW are you gonna PLAY B-HOP LIKE THAT?! using that picture of him. . hahahaha. . . playing b-hop like a violin with that unflattering picture. .

I didn't pick the picture but it's not that bad...or...whatever. hahaha

[Drunk Punch]

Nice article Cliff.

I think Vitali should be a little higher though. That dude doesn't even lose rounds, and he's 39 years old. Vitali at #1.

[LeadUppercut]

Pacquiao is simply the best....He beat real big men more than his size. Nobody have done that.

Fkn hell, you are actually as bad as Check_hooks

Do they have some type of training school that spits out you morons ?

[LeadUppercut]

You are such a h0m0. This article has nothing to do with Pacquiao. Why don't you actually comment on the story, and remove Manny's nuts from your mouth. Smiley Face!!!!!!!! Fairy.

Correct, this article is about the fighters who will step up, Pac is not included.

Do you even realise what you said there ?

Did you even read the article ?

****head, if that article had nothing to do with pacroid, then why are you here?

[Nautilus]

By Cliff Rold - Who is the best professional boxer in the world? The question fascinates many and has for years, allowing for comparisons of accomplishment and skill across the weight scale.

It’s a question asked too often the wrong way.

No matter how much mythical mumbo jumbo goes into the silliness of “pound-for-pound,” if Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao fought tomorrow, the only question being literally settled, beyond doubt, would be who is the best Welterweight in the world in 2011.

In other words, who is the real champion at 147 lbs…and the winner would have a strong championship claim indeed, the division all but wiped out at that point between the two of them.

Real boxing doesn’t happen in a virtual cell of the imagination where Jimmy Wilde and Jack Dempsey can be magically matched at equal sizes. Real boxing happens in the ring, in weight divisions (or the occasional catchweight) and in those divisions there is no shortage of men calling themselves champions.

Really.

No shortage at all.

With interim belts and ‘super’ champs to be found dotted all over the scale, picking out those fighters who truly represent championship excellence isn’t always easy. It’s worth it anyways. Once a year, it’s more than fair to put the pretend of pound-for-pound aside and ask about the reality of championship excellence. [Click Here To Read More]

I think that Vitaliy should share the number one spot with his brother Wladimir.