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  • DLT
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    You Have To Give Floyd His Props Though

    Even if youre a die hard Pac fan and or you think he's a cheap shot coward, if youre a real boxing fan you will aknowledge that he's one of the most skilled guys weve ever seen and that part will be missed when he's gone. I also dont think he gets enough credit for the things he's doing as far as leaving for years at a time and coming straight back looking great.

    There is no other fighter right now who could consistently leave for 1 and a half to 2 and a half years but still be favored to easily win agaiinst top guys upon his return and if he doesnt dominate then we will say he sucks or is overrated. Boxing is probably the #1 sport where you cant do that at because its so much based on timing.

    I just appreciate watching his skill set & focus in the ring. Its unmatched. He's taking all that time off, fighting some of the best Offensive guys in the game, and they can barely hit him. Did you see how he was picking off Ortiz shots with his elbows? Its like he could see the punches coming before Ortiz threw them and he knew exactly where they would land.

    Did you see how Ortiz would start his punching motion, and then Floyd would immediatly react and sharpe shoot a straight right that would beat him to the target? He was doing the same things against Mosley. Thats top notch **** right there. With that being said, Im not completely sold on him as being the same guy. I thought I possibly saw some signs of slippage & father time in this fight.

    Some of it was rust, some of it was things are a lil different with Southpaws, but he's getting some age you can tell. I somewhat wonder about his punch resistance at this time, like Hopkins & RJ's dropping with age but he still has a ways to go. Still, some of that can be overblown too. Like Steward going on & on about Floyd just landing 1 punch and not following up. It was like rounds 1 & 2.

    He's not going to be landing blistering combos that early against a young strong Southpaw after 16months off. Immediatly in the 3rd round you could see his timing getting more & more there and then the combos came. Then you got Lampley who like 5 different times tell the audience that Ortiz was landing good shots when really Floyd was landing in those situations. It was weird and he does that alot. It makes the fight seem closer then it really is.

    The bottom line is you may not like him for alot of reasons and you may not think he does enough with his talent but his ring IQ, fundementals, defense, and skillset is easily one of the greatest we have ever seen & you should appreciate that while its here because it wont be for much longer. As for the fight, it was an unfortunate ending to alot of people but its great for me because Floyd won while still lookin good and because of the controversey & unfinished business, Ortiz still did enough to save face and be looked at as a top guy for future big fights
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    He cherry picked Ortiz bro. He found the right opponent to come back against, and make easy money. Why didn't he come back to fight Pac? He admitted to coming back for easy money on 24/7. Don't give me the "he had a long lay off" excuse. Ortiz was the perfect opponent for him, as he had shown his flaws, and lack of abilities to compete at the elite level. The man quit against Maidana, got outboxes by Peterson, and wasn't even a top 140 pounder, nor was he in the mix with the top guys in that division. He subsequently moved up to 147 to fight a vastly overhyped, overprotected, and vastly flawed fighter in Berto. Except, he was the first live body to expose these flaws convincingly, since Collazo.

    Nevertheless, Floyd's skills in the ring were beautiful, and fun to watch. The ending was predisposed, as everyone knew Ortiz wasn't on Floyd's level. The intriguing aspect of the fight was whether he could somehow catch Floyd slipping after Floyd's long inactivity, and whether that would play a role in the fight. Still, Floyd was sharp, accurate, and as good as before. Sure, certain components point towards ring rust, or perhaps aging, yet Floyd looked spectacular. Ortiz ****ed up, and paid a price. Floyd did the right thing.

    What Floyd did is what you're supposed to do if you cherry pick an opponent that doesn't belong in the ring with you, which is beat his as.s, put on a show, and display your skills, as opposed to constant glove tapping, and hugging like Pac-Mosley. Fans pay to see a fight. Ortiz took it from the ring to the street so Floyd ended it there. Sorry if I brought up Pac-Mosley. I guess I did it in reference to all the hate Floyd is getting for the way the fight ended. I don't remember this much hate directed at Pac after Pac-Mosley, which was a far worse fight then Ortiz-May, as well as less competitive.

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    • DLT
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      Cherry picked is sooooo overrated. Truthfully, if he doesnt fight Pac or Martinez then critics will call it cherry picked when theyre are other really good fighters still in boxing besides them

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        Originally posted by Hi-Dro
        He cherry picked Ortiz bro. He found the right opponent to come back against, and make easy money. Why didn't he come back to fight Pac? He admitted to coming back for easy money on 24/7. Don't give me the "he had a long lay off" excuse. Ortiz was the perfect opponent for him, as he had shown his flaws, and lack of abilities to compete at the elite level. The man quit against Maidana, got outboxes by Peterson, and wasn't even a top 140 pounder, nor was he in the mix with the top guys in that division. He subsequently moved up to 147 to fight a vastly overhyped, overprotected, and vastly flawed fighter in Berto. Except, he was the first live body to expose these flaws convincingly, since Collazo.

        Nevertheless, Floyd's skills in the ring were beautiful, and fun to watch. The ending was predisposed, as everyone knew Ortiz wasn't on Floyd's level. The intriguing aspect of the fight was whether he could somehow catch Floyd slipping after Floyd's long inactivity, and whether that would play a role in the fight. Still, Floyd was sharp, accurate, and as good as before. Sure, certain components point towards ring rust, or perhaps aging, yet Floyd looked spectacular. Ortiz ****ed up, and paid a price. Floyd did the right thing.

        What Floyd did is what you're supposed to do if you cherry pick an opponent that doesn't belong in the ring with you, which is beat his as.s, put on a show, and display your skills, as opposed to constant glove tapping, and hugging like Pac-Mosley. Fans pay to see a fight. Ortiz took it from the ring to the street so Floyd ended it there. Sorry if I brought up Pac-Mosley. I guess I did it in reference to all the hate Floyd is getting for the way the fight ended. I don't remember this much hate directed at Pac after Pac-Mosley, which was a far worse fight then Ortiz-May, as well as less competitive.
        How do you cherry pick the current world champion of your division WTF Vic just had fight of the year with the only other guy Floyd could have fought , *** you *******s ares just so twisted .

        If you call fighting the currant WC a cherry pick , your really only stating how great Floyd is ,,,,,, remember Pac ducking the 154 WC Foreman saying he was too big , then fights Margo who is same size for a vacant 154 belt and you wanna talk about cheery pick ,,, lol you guys are ***ed in the head .

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          Originally posted by Reloaded
          How do you cherry pick the current world champion of your division WTF Vic just had fight of the year with the only other guy Floyd could have fought , *** you *******s ares just so twisted .

          If you call fighting the currant WC a cherry pick , your really only stating how great Floyd is ,,,,,, remember Pac ducking the 154 WC Foreman saying he was too big , then fights Margo who is same size for a vacant 154 belt and you wanna talk about cheery pick ,,, lol you guys are ***ed in the head .
          ***** i just explained it to you in the post you're replying to. Berto was overrated, protected, and an HBO hypejob. So what if he had a title? So does Morales, and Canelo, and that doesn't mean they're the best at the weight classes were they currently hold a title. Thus, come at me with a better argument. Titles don't mean ****.

          Why are you bringing up Pac? Yeah he cherry picked Marg for a bull**** title, and has the nerve to call himself an 8th division champ..I know that. If anything I vehemently pointed it out before the fight took place. Ortiz-Mayweather was more legit then Pac-Marg, yet that's not my point.
          Originally posted by DLT
          Cherry picked is sooooo overrated. Truthfully, if he doesnt fight Pac or Martinez then critics will call it cherry picked when theyre are other really good fighters still in boxing besides them
          Ortiz wasn't the best. That's my point. And fans are rightfully entitled to call any opponent of Floyd a cherry pick until he stands up, and fights Pacquiao who is the fighter everyone wants to see Floyd against. There is no reason for the fight not happening other then Floyd not wanting it, thus my cherry picking point.

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            murked yall up in hurrrrrr

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              I don't miss coward.

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                Originally posted by dlt
                even if youre a die hard pac fan and or you think he's a cheap shot coward, if youre a real boxing fan you will aknowledge that he's one of the most skilled guys weve ever seen and that part will be missed when he's gone. I also dont think he gets enough credit for the things he's doing as far as leaving for years at a time and coming straight back looking great.

                There is no other fighter right now who could consistently leave for 1 and a half to 2 and a half years but still be favored to easily win agaiinst top guys upon his return and if he doesnt dominate then we will say he sucks or is overrated. Boxing is probably the #1 sport where you cant do that at because its so much based on timing.

                I just appreciate watching his skill set & focus in the ring. Its unmatched. He's taking all that time off, fighting some of the best offensive guys in the game, and they can barely hit him. Did you see how he was picking off ortiz shots with his elbows? Its like he could see the punches coming before ortiz threw them and he knew exactly where they would land.

                Did you see how ortiz would start his punching motion, and then floyd would immediatly react and sharpe shoot a straight right that would beat him to the target? He was doing the same things against mosley. Thats top notch **** right there. With that being said, im not completely sold on him as being the same guy. I thought i possibly saw some signs of slippage & father time in this fight.

                Some of it was rust, some of it was things are a lil different with southpaws, but he's getting some age you can tell. I somewhat wonder about his punch resistance at this time, like hopkins & rj's dropping with age but he still has a ways to go. Still, some of that can be overblown too. Like steward going on & on about floyd just landing 1 punch and not following up. It was like rounds 1 & 2.

                He's not going to be landing blistering combos that early against a young strong southpaw after 16months off. Immediatly in the 3rd round you could see his timing getting more & more there and then the combos came. Then you got lampley who like 5 different times tell the audience that ortiz was landing good shots when really floyd was landing in those situations. It was weird and he does that alot. It makes the fight seem closer then it really is.

                The bottom line is you may not like him for alot of reasons and you may not think he does enough with his talent but his ring iq, fundementals, defense, and skillset is easily one of the greatest we have ever seen & you should appreciate that while its here because it wont be for much longer. As for the fight, it was an unfortunate ending to alot of people but its great for me because floyd won while still lookin good and because of the controversey & unfinished business, ortiz still did enough to save face and be looked at as a top guy for future big fights


                fight pacquaio and we'll all shut up.............

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                  all the pacfans give floyd his props. pinoys even said ortiz is dumb. only *******s against the *****s are the ones who are way out of hand when it comes to common logic bro.

                  it goes both ways bro.

                  by the way not all *******s are pinoys.

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                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Cherry picked is sooooo overrated. Truthfully, if he doesnt fight Pac or Martinez then critics will call it cherry picked when theyre are other really good fighters still in boxing besides them
                    That's because Mayweather and Pacquiao are simply on another level compared to the other WWs. There's plenty of good fighters out there, but Floyd and Manny are ATGs who are still performing at a very high level. Floyd taking 19 months off and beating Ortiz like that just shows you the gap in quality. Any fight other than Pacquiao (or Martinez, but that won't happen) is a cherry-pick because of this.

                    The #3 welterweight= Khloe Kardashian.

                    That's how big the gap is between the top 2, and 3.

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