May vs Ortiz; thoughts on the fight itself

**Bushbaby** · 09-20-2011, 06:17 PM

I think the 3rd round was all Floyd, but rounds 1, 2, 4 were all competative with a slight edge to Floyd. In the 4th Floyd ducked to his left & got caught with a mean right hook & seemed to start paying attention after that. I didn't see the Gatti like beating that some claim.

**_original_** · 09-20-2011, 06:31 PM

It was a very good and tense fight, but after watching it the next day (and sober) I think Floyd was starting to completely figure him out. Don't listen to the commentators cause they were horrible, especially Lampley who I usually like, Ortiz was hardly landing anything and Floyd couldn't miss with the right hand or other punches. I think Ortiz gave a good account for himself and to the naked eye made it seem a little bit more competitive than it really was. I think Floyd was going to keep pressuring him and being aggressive till about the 8th round when I believe things would have really gotten bad for Ortiz. I'm also in the minority that believe the KO punch was legit and have no complains over it, so overall a good fight and I felt I got my money's worth with the whole card.

**MindBat** · 09-20-2011, 06:36 PM

To Ortiz's credit, he came to fight and put on a decent effort even after he was getting tattooed by Floyd. So the action was good until the horrible ending.

**Battle*Hardened** · 09-20-2011, 06:41 PM

Rds 1 and 2 were far from blowouts. Rd 3 was obviously Floyd, and Rd 4 each had his moments. Floyd more consistently.

**bayareamike** · 09-20-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Bushbaby

I think the 3rd round was all Floyd, but rounds 1, 2, 4 were all competative with a slight edge to Floyd. In the 4th Floyd ducked to his left & got caught with a mean right hook & seemed to start paying attention after that. I didn't see the Gatti like beating that some claim.

Exactly this, imo.

**CarlosG815** · 09-20-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by AllEyesOpen

I know the topic at hand remains the conclusion, I wanted to share my opinion on the fight up until the controversy.

Both fighter came out hard and fast, which was expected from Ortiz but a surprise from Mayweather, who was taking it to Ortiz from the start. Ortiz's aggression was getting him nothing but missed shots and hard counters & lead rights to the chin.

In the 4th round though, after he lost all 3 previous rounds IMHO, taking a break in round 3 & getting caught clean by Mayweather early in the 4th, Ortiz landed hard and clean on Mayweather a few times, which to his shock had little to no effect.

The rest is history, but it's my opinion that had the fight gone on, Ortiz would have gasses by the 6-7 round and had been eating clean right hands all night on the way to a late stoppage.

Both fighters were in the wrong, although 1 fighter's actions were caused by the other's, and most importantly legal according the ref & the rules. That being said, I have no problem with the commission calling it a NC and setting an immediate rematch, but i still see it playing out the same.

share your thoughts about the fight, there's enough threads about the outcome already.

I just fail to see how both fighters are in the wrong.

**johncods** · 09-20-2011, 07:28 PM

Played out just as I envisioned it. That Ortiz was gonna get overwhelmed by the magnitude of the fight. He was intimidated in there. When he actually let his hands go caught mayweather with good punches. If after those flurries in round four he'd just step back and reset he would have won that round and he could have tried it again. He was just too inexperienced to be in the same ring with Floyd. He's emotions got to him and went ape **** instead of keeping his composure.

If Ortiz had just stepped back after that last flurry, he would have won that round and who knows his confidence would have grown.

**Deal With It** · 09-20-2011, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by CarlosG815

I just fail to see how both fighters are in the wrong.

Oh, you haven't heard? There are brand new rules in boxing that went into effect on 9/17/2011. In a active boxing match, you're no longer allowed to punch your opponent in the face if his guard isn't up properly and his hands are down around his waist, and/or if he doesn't have an advance warning that you're about to punch him in the face, even if he's standing directly in front of you looking you square in the eyes.

Any bouts prior to 9/17/11 where a boxer was KO'd without having an advance warning from their opponent that they were about to be KO'd or if their guard wasn't up properly when they were KO'd will now be ruled no contest.

**CarlosG815** · 09-20-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Player3

Oh, you haven't heard? There are brand new rules in boxing that went into effect on 9/17/2011. In a active boxing match, you're no longer allowed to punch your opponent in the face if his guard isn't up properly and his hands are down around his waist, and/or if he doesn't have an advance warning that you're about to punch him in the face, even if he's standing directly in front of you looking you square in the eyes.

Any bouts prior to 9/17/11 where a boxer was KO'd without having an advance warning from their opponent that they were about to be KO'd or if their guard wasn't up properly when they were KO'd will now be ruled no contest.

As a matter of fact, I vaguely remember Joe Cortez stating that in the locker room before the fight.

I had forgotten, thanks for the reminder.

May vs Ortiz; thoughts on the fight itself