The Real Problem? MAYWEATHER NEVER RESPECTED ORTIZ!!

[Gino Ros]

For some reason, Mayweather has always held Ortiz in disdain. If you look at the entirety of the process from Day One, Floyd never had any 'respect' for Ortiz.

First, Floyd selected Ortiz as an opponent - something which, contrary to Floyd's reputation as a cherrypicker, he never does:

• Ricky Hatton called out Mayweather on national TV after the Castillo fight
• JM Marquez called out Mayweather on national TV after the Diaz fight
• Shane Mosley called out Mayweather on national TV after the FMJ/JMM fight

Floyd has not been cherrypicking... he has been rsponding to challenges, but only to challenges from the highly-ranked or big-name opponents who can help sell a fight.

But in this case, Floyd CHOSE Ortiz. Why? I believe because PBF wanted to ruin the kid as get-back to Oscar. Floyd despises Oscar, and he views Ortiz as Oscar Lite.

Look back at all of the events:

1. Arrogantly saying "I'm fittin' to get in there and destroy this kid" at Kellerman's Face-Off. That was un-Floydlike.
   
2. "I'm old enough to be his father....so I'm gonna son him"
   
3. Choking Ortiz at the weigh-in. That was also un-Floydlike.
   
4. Even the pay for Ortiz was small, IMO. $2.5 million vs Floyd's $25 million guarantee. Did Floyd clown Marquez' pay? Nope.
   
5. At the final presser, Floyd didn't want an introduction, he was just antsy to go speak. FMJ was just verrry different on this Fight Week. Uncharacteristically aggressive.
   
6. Not giving Ortiz ANY of the champion's respect (signage, ring walk, etc)

When Floyd got into the ring, he walked forward, and hit Ortiz and then Victor started going backwards. Superiority reinforced. As Floyd said to the media in the post-presser, he saw Vic's face opening up, Floyd knows that Vic (much like Zab) is not a strong late-round fighter. Vic's opportunity was early...and Ortiz just could not hurt Floyd.


I concede that Floyd is EXTREMELY arrogant about his boxing status. And that haughtiness manifested itself in that fight.

Mayweather is a guy who prides himself in emerging from fights "untouched". When's the last time Floyd left with a bruise or cut... the Oscar fight? Four years ago? So the fact that Ortiz bloodied PBF's mouth on some illegal **** enraged Floyd.

If Marquez, or Hatton, Or Mosley, or Baldomir did the same thing, I don't believe Floyd would have reacted that way. But there is an undercurrent of genuine animosity and disrespect for Ortiz that fed into the situation.

In the aftermath, I believe Mayweather is stung by the criticism (he hears the critics). But at the core, he is VERY pleased with the way he mistreated Ortiz.

Thoughts?

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[borgata]

Very well said! I can't add much but it's pretty clear Floyd hates Oscar.

[Gino Ros]

Very well said! I can't add much but it's pretty clear Floyd hates Oscar.

What is surprising is how critical Floyd is to Oscar's face, even though they are doing substantial business together.

Oscar just grins and bears it. Just like his goofy-ass protege.

[onechance87]

floyd u cheating puto

[PAKYO]

Floyd has no respect to anyone...including his own self.
No need to announce that.

[Mayabang]

No Gino, the MAIN reason all this shitty controversy is happening, is because people NEVER respected Floyd, just ask Larry Merchant.

[JayDee2700]

You have good points but I think he respected Ortiz as a fighter but he knew he would beat the breaks off of Ortiz, I think he already knew what to do to in the ring to beat Ortiz, thats one of the reasons why he picked him to fight, that and he is younger, stronger, bigger, and a up and comming fighter. I also think Floyd did it to silence his critics and to up 1 on Manny cause let be honest Manny last few fights have not been against ppl that wouldn't be competitive nor have been fresh.

[Gino Ros]

Floyd has no respect to anyone...including his own self.
No need to announce that.

Shouldn't you be in a mud hut somewhere praying to your illiterate congressman?

[Gino Ros]

You have good points but I think he respected Ortiz as a fighter but he knew he would beat the breaks off of Ortiz, I think he already knew what to do to in the ring to beat Ortiz, thats one of the reasons why he picked him to fight, that and he is younger, stronger, bigger, and a up and comming fighter. I also think Floyd did it to silence his critics and to up 1 on Manny cause let be honest Manny last few fights have not been against ppl that wouldn't be competitive nor have been fresh.

I don't think he respected Ortiz as a fighter. He didn't trash Ortiz' fighting skills, because as a 7:1 favourite, it would have discouraged people from buying a non-competitive bout.

The whole 24/7 was to showcase how big and fierce Victor was.

[Ra Amun Tehuti]

Let me explain something right quick.

first of all, Victor ortiz and oscar de la hoya share the same astrological sun and moon placement ( aquarius and pisces respectively) Victor and oscar are very similar people. With that said, I won't be surprised when victor goes off the deep end and uses drugs and other coping mechanisms that pisces moons use to deal with their extremely senstive and psychic nature.

Second, Floyds moon in Taurus squares ( a harsh aspect indicating static) Victor and Oscars Sun, Floyd genuinely does not like either one. Those that understand astrology understand that with squares, the person doesnt really have to do anything, there is just an innate subtle tension and negative energy between the people.