Originally posted by bojangles1987
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Ortiz says he was just retaliating to Floyd's elbows
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Lets be honest, the headbutts were part of the plan from the beginning. Ortiz's camp felt they could compensate for the skill gap by overwhelming floyd (it is a good plan). Thats why Ortiz showed up so heavy for the fight. He thought he would bully floyd with the size advantage. The problem is that style only works if your somebody like Antonio Magarito who wont go down unless hes put down. He probably thought he could mix the butt in with his punches and attribute them as to being a result of a basic orthodox/ southpaw confrontation. Notice how each time he threw the butt he tried to throw a punch afterward. He just couldnt be subtle at all and they each came out looking blatent as hell.
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Originally posted by Shogunofharlem1 View PostLets be honest, the headbutts were part of the plan from the beginning. Ortiz's camp felt they could compensate for the skill gap by overwhelming floyd (it is a good plan). Thats why Ortiz showed up so heavy for the fight. He thought he would bully floyd with the size advantage. The problem is that style only works if your somebody like Antonio Magarito who wont go down unless hes put down. He probably thought he could mix the butt in with his punches and attribute them as to being a result of a basic orthodox/ southpaw confrontation. Notice how each time he threw the butt he tried to throw a punch afterward. He just couldnt be subtle at all and they each came out looking blatent as hell.
Side note: Floyd is a tough kid. Very underrated in that area. Didn't complain/retaliate against the early butts and rabbit punches.
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Originally posted by StrD View PostAfter the fight when they showed the clip Ortiz was trying to explain how the headbutt was accidental and now he's saying it was a retaliation for the elbows? So.. Which one was it Victor?
Against Maidana:
I broke my hand the week before the fight
I don't remember anything about that night. It never happened.
About Parents
They left us at the bus stop
We just waited for them to come home.
About Floyd:
I said I would take his undefeated record when I was nine (and PBF was 19)
He is a great fighter
He is not a great fighter.
About the headbutts:
He dived into me very fast. It was accidental
I lost my head. it was heat of the momemt. i apologize.
It was retaliation for the elbows.
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Originally posted by JOM'S View Postwe know floyd uses a lot of those elbows but when and if you fight fire with fire, while still fighting, do not be all of of a sudden be friendly, hugging ang kissing ...
How are you?
In all fairness, I did not see Floyd use the elbow as an offensive weapon. He arm-barred Ortiz as a push-off. To clear space. Given the pre-fight focus on the elbows and the dressing room instructions, I think PBF was hyper-cognizant of that.
Also, I have seen/heard other corners complain to refs about Floyd's elbow (Naazim: "he's using that elbow, Bayless"), but Ortiz' corner said nothing at all about the elbow during or after the fight.
This is all post-fight spin. Excuses.
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