will ORTIZ = FERNANDO VARGAS now?

[LatinKing416]

they rushed vargas in there with tito... tito busted that ass at a similar young age... vargas wasnt the same after


thought on ortiz?



ps
will he ever intentionally foul again? or will he, but just not apologize for it after?

[Larry the boss]

i think his career will most likely go downhill from here..goldenboy should be shot

[-MAKAVELLI-]

at least Vargas had heart

[-MAKAVELLI-]

cant believe i just complimented Vargas

[johnx]

nope. vargas is a fat steroid user

[Heeb]

Vargas is far better.

[jrosales13]

It is an insult to Vargas to say that this damn tree = El Feroz in anyway.

Vargas was a true warrior with a fighter mentality. This guy doesn't have that same mentality.

Vargas had heart, toughness, pride. 3 things that Ortiz lacks and has always lacked.

Ortiz is/was never in the same league as Vargas.

This comparison sucks.

[Heeb]

It is an insult to Vargas to say that this damn tree = El Feroz in anyway.

[mikelovesfood]

Vargas is far better.

dont they both fight out the same area/gym?

[LatinKing416]

dont they both fight out the same area/gym?

believe it or not vargas trained with father garcia... father of robert and danny


robert and danny trained ortiz



oxnard california i believe