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  • S IP U IR S xII
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    #11
    Originally posted by k1llu
    Floyd, Bhop, and Pac. Pac haven’t fought any dangerous opponent since jmm. Floyd and Bhop have been dominating for a long time now.
    Sorry, dont agree. I think Cotto was a very dangerous fight. I dont buy any of the "mentally beaten at that point". I could make that same point about ALOT of Floyds "Big Wins".

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    • jrosales13
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      #12
      Originally posted by k1llu
      Floyd, Bhop, and Pac. Pac haven’t fought any dangerous opponent since jmm. Floyd and Bhop have been dominating for a long time now.
      Pac has been dominating for a long time as well.

      If Floyd has fought someone "dangerous" since Castillo. Then Pac has fought someone "dangerous" since JMM.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #13
        hopkins

        floyd

        manny

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          #14
          BHOP and PAC























































          calazaghe




          floyd

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          • S IP U IR S xII
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            #15
            Originally posted by Larryx2011
            hopkins

            floyd

            manny
            OMG how you get so many points!?!?!?!? lol

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            • k1llu
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              #16
              Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
              Sorry, dont agree. I think Cotto was a very dangerous fight. I dont buy any of the "mentally beaten at that point". I could make that same point about ALOT of Floyds "Big Wins".

              Cotto was coming off two epic beat downs were he looked like ****. He didn’t have a trainer in that fight so he had no game plan. Fight was made at 145 cotto was so weak in that fight every time pac landed flush cotto was hurt. He moved up to 154 for a reason.

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              • S IP U IR S xII
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                #17
                Originally posted by k1llu
                Cotto was coming off two epic beat downs were he looked like ****. He didn’t have a trainer in that fight so he had no game plan. Fight was made at 145 cotto was so weak in that fight every time pac landed flush cotto was hurt. He moved up to 154 for a reason.
                I did have him beating Clottey due to Clottey being Clottey late. Cotto has always been a big guy, but he didnt move higher up until recently. I mean your not gonna blame Floyd for JMM taking the fight and being blown up are you?

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                  #18
                  legacy is shaped by how a lot of the key boxing figures choose to write about them, and "update" their status as time passes. . . i think manny's battles with morales, MAB, and JMM will have a HUGE impact on his legendary status; they were all good fights. . . i give manny a slight edge in opponents defeated, and his rise and subsequent obliteration of weight classes . . but still so much time to ultimately define and shape.

                  hopkins will probably always be favored by a lot of the old school boxing mentality type fans. . . if he keeps on winning for a few more years he just might overtake both manny and floyd.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by uglypug
                    legacy is shaped by how a lot of the key boxing figures choose to write about them, and "update" their status as time passes. . . i think manny's battles with morales, MAB, and JMM will have a HUGE impact on his legendary status; they were all good fights. . . i give manny a slight edge in opponents defeated, and his rise and subsequent obliteration of weight classes . . but still so much time to ultimately define and shape.

                    hopkins will probably always be favored by a lot of the old school boxing mentality type fans. . . if he keeps on winning for a few more years he just might overtake both manny and floyd.
                    cant argue with that

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                    • k1llu
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
                      I did have him beating Clottey due to Clottey being Clottey late. Cotto has always been a big guy, but he didnt move higher up until recently. I mean your not gonna blame Floyd for JMM taking the fight and being blown up are you?
                      That’s why the fight was@145.

                      Go watch old cotto fights when he was at 140 he was a good fighter but he had a weak chin when he moved up to 147 and he took punch better. The pac fight reminds of the cotto @ 140.

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