Why was Tyson so lazy in the clinch?

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  • louvega
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    #11
    Tyson never knew what to do when clinched. Not only that, he would get tied up, start wrestling with his arms and get completely frustrated. I never understood how no trainer managed to correct that.

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    • NChristo
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      #12
      Originally posted by Gotteskrieger
      I seen 1 of them performed out of the clinch, video isn't of much use.

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      • WesleySnipes
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        #13
        Originally posted by Larryx2011
        in his early days he flurried to the body in clinches..after cus died.....his career dies
        not quite right...he was still awesome and in his prime with his old team...but after he fired them all after the Spinks fight at that point his career was over...so much waisted talent i still could cry about it

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        • Turbo B
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          #14
          Originally posted by NChristo
          I seen 1 of them performed out of the clinch, video isn't of much use.
          It was a response to...

          Originally posted by catskills23
          Did Tyson have the potential to be a great infighter?.
          The uppercut was almost exclusively delivered from the inside.

          I can’t think of many HW’s that were as prolific with the uppercut than Mike, most don't have anything that even resembles an inside game.

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          • NChristo
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            #15
            Originally posted by Gotteskrieger
            It was a response to...



            The uppercut was almost exclusively delivered from the inside.

            I can’t think of many HW’s that were as prolific with the uppercut than Mike, most don't have anything that even resembles an inside game.
            Ah my bad then sorry and yeah you're right, Mike could of become a tremendous infighter especially with that uppercut in his arsenal, Bowe (Didn't use it nearly as much as he should), Johnson, Louis maybe had a better uppercut on the inside or one at least as good, can't think of many more then that though.

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            • New England
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              #16
              he was small enough at the height of the shoulder than most guys could just throw an arm over him and tie him up

              he wanted to be just outside of that range (where he can be tied up)
              so he's not really an infighter
              he wants to keep his hands free.

              if he's in a clinch he's usually working against gravity (these guys can lean on him and he cant lean on them)
              so he can let the ref break them
              and he can go back to where he does his best work

              which is when he's coming in and using feints and head movement to get inside of opponents offense but far enough away to get max leverage on his punches and keep those hands free

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              • catskills23
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                #17
                Originally posted by New England
                he was small enough at the height of the shoulder than most guys could just throw an arm over him and tie him up

                he wanted to be just outside of that range (where he can be tied up)
                so he's not really an infighter
                he wants to keep his hands free.

                if he's in a clinch he's usually working against gravity (these guys can lean on him and he cant lean on them)
                so he can let the ref break them
                and he can go back to where he does his best work

                which is when he's coming in and using feints and head movement to get inside of opponents offense but far enough away to get max leverage on his punches and keep those hands free

                So your saying his height stopped him from being a great inside fighter . Thats not true because Frazier was the exact same height as tyson and he was a great inside fighter.

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                • catskills23
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                  #18
                  So your saying his height stopped him from being a great inside fighter . Thats not true because Frazier was the exact same height as tyson and he was a great inside fighter.

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