Mayweather Ortiz Winner Beats Pacquiao.

[Canelo Phresh]

That's coz of his ambition going into politics, and it's grinding some of his teeth out of his killer instinct which he is known for.

It sucks but it is what it is.

We'll see if he knocks JMM's head on the stands or he hugs and touch gloves with him every round.

But don't be fooled Mannie mate, coz Clottey pissed and shat blood the day after the fight, Marg went from mexican to chinese and a quick visit to the optha, and Shane, well, he had ballet lessons.

And the most important of all, after Cotto, those were BIGGER men, and are not easy to topple down.

So we'll see. But not that you're wrong, coz Pac indeed lost some of his grit.

how much more will he succeed in politics if he beats mayweather? he knows.

[Tamis!]

hes a true great but he hasnt been lately...

Like I said, if Manny stuck to 140 south then you wouldn't make this thread at all.

You gotta understand that after Cotto, those men aren't like MAB, EM, Diaz, Hatton, etc.

Heck, even Dela Hoya didn't go down, coz he quit.

Look at the damage Pac inflicted onto them and also take a look at what Pac got in return (especially from Marg).

From there it's easy why people (including you) can crave for that old Manny who whoops azz like they're candy.

[jltsmae]

floyd could have beaten pac already if he did not went for a 16 mo vacation and came back in time when pac - jmm III was not signed yet... ya know waht i mean?

[Canelo Phresh]

Like I said, if Manny stuck to 140 south then you wouldn't make this thread at all.

You gotta understand that after Cotto, those men aren't like MAB, EM, Diaz, Hatton, etc.

Heck, even Dela Hoya didn't go down, coz he quit.

Look at the damage Pac inflicted onto them and also take a look at what Pac got in return (especially from Marg).

From there it's easy why people (including you) can crave for that old Manny who whoops azz like they're candy.

your or i could inflict great damage on somebody if they are easy to hit. strength isnt hard to build skill is.

[Canelo Phresh]

floyd could have beaten pac already if he did not went for a 16 mo vacation and came back in time when pac - jmm III was not signed yet... ya know waht i mean?

not tryin to talk that troll ish catch up.

[Tamis!]

your or i could inflict great damage on somebody if they are easy to hit. strength isnt hard to build skill is.

Wait a minute.

I thought you said in your OP that Pac would lose to the May-Ortiz winner coz he lost his hunger?

Now are we gonna talk about Floyd's skills is too much for Manny?

Damn mate you contradicting your own avvy, what does it say again? Thought you retired?

You don't wanna go that route don't you? It's discussed a million times, all that's left is for them to fight.

[Canelo Phresh]

Wait a minute.

I thought you said in your OP that Pac would lose to the May-Ortiz winner coz he lost his hunger?

Now are we gonna talk about Floyd's skills is too much for Manny?

Damn mate you contradicting your own avvy, what does it say again? Thought you retired?

You don't wanna go that route don't you? It's discussed a million times, all that's left is for them to fight.

didnt say what your insinuating at all. its a problem that pacs will and determination could overcome.

[Tamis!]

didnt say what your insinuating at all. its a problem that pacs will and determination could overcome.

Yeah but I thought you said Pac lost hunger that's why either May or Vic beats him because of this.

I didn't bother to tell you it's ****** to even think that Vic can beat pac just to help you out and discuss.

But hey suit yourself mate.

[Canelo Phresh]

Yeah but I thought you said Pac lost hunger that's why either May or Vic beats him because of this.

I didn't bother to tell you it's ****** to even think that Vic can beat pac just to help you out and discuss.

But hey suit yourself mate.

he has and you noticed that as well. you said he hasnt been challenged since mab and moralles. if he gets that hunger back then yeah he can win. i have no problem admitting that pac can beat mayweather i just dont see him wanting it. i see mayweather challenging hmself for that possible pacquiao fight. hes doubting himself in this ortiz fight its apperant. the only reason hes taking this chance is for the possible pac fight.

[Tamis!]

he has and you noticed that as well. you said he hasnt been challenged since mab and moralles. if he gets that hunger back then yeah he can win. i have no problem admitting that pac can beat mayweather i just dont see him wanting it. i see mayweather challenging hmself for that possible pacquiao fight. hes doubting himself in this ortiz fight its apperant. the only reason hes taking this chance is for the possible pac fight.

How can you tell?

I just don't wanna go there for the trolls not to be fed, but I know too well who doesn't want the fight between the two of them.