I don't think Margarito was loaded in the first Cotto fight

[$coinblatt$]

That is funny, but what I think is funnier most people who don't know shit about Che trash him when he was a solid revolutionary, medic, and voluntary worker for many poor towns in Mexico and lots of South American towns...but because of what the American media portrays him as, such as a murderer, traitor, and just pure evil. I say they should read a book for once.

WRONG!

he did NOTHING for Mexicans.

Why do some of our people wear his face on their t-shirt like he's some great Chicano hero? Why not wear a tshirt of a real revolutionary who did help Mexicans, like Emiliano Zapata? is it because Che is so far away from Mexico, that he is a "safe" revolutionary symbol for do-nothing Chicanos to play with? Che did nothing for Chicanos, nothing for Mexicanos. He was instead preoccupied with Cuba and Bolivia. He risked his life for Cubans, not Mexicans. When he was killed, it was in Bolivia, not Mexico.

Contrast that with Emiliano Zapata who fought for Mexicans
led an army of Mexicans FOR Mexicans
and died in Mexico....

Today, Che has become a fantasy hero for many upper middle class Latin Americans. He is the fantasy they can indulge in and soothe their conscience. His face is now on tshirt, coffee mugs, and other commodities.

Che was a Communist (based on European ideology) and modern Marxism does not care one single shit for Indigenous people. Many Marxists are concerned only with their "economic utopia" and care very little for our people's real concerns. If Chicanos want to really talk about "revolution" and brag about a real revolutionary, they need to put on a Zapata t-shirt and drop the Argentine Che Guevara cult

[j-rod]

Margarito had loaded gloves for God knows how long, and that obviously includes Cotto. Let's not act like morons and pretend common sense doesn't exist. However, due to that initial fight, I feel Cotto is mentally damaged, and will lose anyway, due to Margarito's. pressure. Shame
though. Cottons mental status was wrecked by a cheater..

[LaMigra]

That is funny, but what I think is funnier most people who don't know shit about Che trash him when he was a solid revolutionary, medic, and voluntary worker for many poor towns in Mexico and lots of South American towns...but because of what the American media portrays him as, such as a murderer, traitor, and just pure evil. I say they should read a book for once.

ALL jokes aside... If you read up on COMMUNISM you will know that 100 million people have been killed by COMMUNISM. That is a lot of people. The best system in the world is CAPITALISM. That is why you are in AMERICA typing what you're typing and NOT in Cuba. That is WHY we ARE ALL in America today because our parents or grandparents understood AMERICA is the place to be.

**** Che... Ask the people in Cuba if they are free and loving life. OR talk to Cubans in FLA and ask them why they don't love Che.

[spyvsspy]

Both Che and Gaddafi are fags!

I find it funny how a lot of morons wear Che's shirts and they don't know jack shit about him. Just cause it is/was in fashion.

So says the guy who would gladly rock a Margarito shirt

[HitmanHattonAY]

Margarito is new on Twitter - http://twitter.com/#!/TonyMarg

[spyvsspy]

ALL jokes aside... If you read up on COMMUNISM you will know that 100 million people have been killed by COMMUNISM. That is a lot of people. The best system in the world is CAPITALISM. That is why you are in AMERICA typing what you're typing and NOT in Cuba. That is WHY we ARE ALL in America today because our parents or grandparents understood AMERICA is the place to be.

**** Che... Ask the people in Cuba if they are free and loving life. OR talk to Cubans in FLA and ask them why they don't love Che.

Have you ever been to cuba? until you go there I advise you hold your comments.

[Phenom]

ALL jokes aside... If you read up on COMMUNISM you will know that 100 million people have been killed by COMMUNISM. That is a lot of people. The best system in the world is CAPITALISM. That is why you are in AMERICA typing what you're typing and NOT in Cuba. That is WHY we ARE ALL in America today because our parents or grandparents understood AMERICA is the place to be.

**** Che... Ask the people in Cuba if they are free and loving life. OR talk to Cubans in FLA and ask them why they don't love Che.

you don't even know what capitalism is

[caredjo]

Yeah, this thread got some major sidetrack.

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I recognize we will never really know, and as Margarito got off with a slap on the wrists, it implies at least he did not cheat deliberately.

However, I think Margarito had loaded gloves, not only because of the Mosley debacle in his next fight, followed by his remarkably lower punching power afterwards, but also because of Cottos face after their fights. I mean, Mosley landed 19 less total punches than Margarito did on Cotto, 2 less power punches; yet Cottos face was mostly clean after the Mostley fight ( this doesn't say anything about the fight perse ), but after the Margarito fight it was utterly disfigured. If you compare it with the Pacquiao bout, Pac landed roughly 100 more powerpunches and around 75 more punches total and his face was still in better shape.

Does anyone think Margarito has stronger/crisper/cleaner punches than Mosley? I don't. Then what wass it? Cottos face just didn't hold up that one time? I don't think it works like that. Albeit, i'll admit i haven't re-watched their fights recently so maybe i'm missing something.

Also, an article some years ago made a nice analogy about the Mosley fight hand-wrap issue: if you're caught drunk driving, it doesn't mean you drive drunk all the time, but let's be real, if you're caught drunk driving, chances are, most probably you've done it before.

After Mosley


After Pac


After Margarito

[Jack Napier]

he wasn't
he destroyed Cotto righteously and everybody knows it
Cotto fans just refuse to admit it

[MajorKong]

WRONG!

he did NOTHING for Mexicans.

Why do some of our people wear his face on their t-shirt like he's some great Chicano hero? Why not wear a tshirt of a real revolutionary who did help Mexicans, like Emiliano Zapata? is it because Che is so far away from Mexico, that he is a "safe" revolutionary symbol for do-nothing Chicanos to play with? Che did nothing for Chicanos, nothing for Mexicanos. He was instead preoccupied with Cuba and Bolivia. He risked his life for Cubans, not Mexicans. When he was killed, it was in Bolivia, not Mexico.

Contrast that with Emiliano Zapata who fought for Mexicans
led an army of Mexicans FOR Mexicans
and died in Mexico....

Today, Che has become a fantasy hero for many upper middle class Latin Americans. He is the fantasy they can indulge in and soothe their conscience. His face is now on tshirt, coffee mugs, and other commodities.

Che was a Communist (based on European ideology) and modern Marxism does not care one single shit for Indigenous people. Many Marxists are concerned only with their "economic utopia" and care very little for our people's real concerns. If Chicanos want to really talk about "revolution" and brag about a real revolutionary, they need to put on a Zapata t-shirt and drop the Argentine Che Guevara cult

Wow.


Respekkt bro.

Che was nothing but a murderous commie bum. He left the Africans hang out to dry and screwed over the Cubans too.

He's a disgrace. Its sad that so many ****** kids buy shirts with his dumbass commie face on them.