That counter right hand Berto hit Ortiz with in the 2nd

[champ_kw]

Ortiz win , his only welterweight win was against a protected overrated fighter, who is average at best. a competitive FOTY win, i just see a cherrypick.

This is the definition of a hater. Tell me what was Clottey's best win? A blown up Chico? What was Margarito's best win? He's 1-3 in so called big fights with his lone win being a fight in which he used plaster against Cotto. Keep it funky....Floyd's decision to fight the best out there is embarrassing your boy Pac. Two years ago, they didn't need Marquez, they beat him already, nothing to prove, yadda yadda yadda...but now at the tender age of 38 he's able to get a fight?? And you choose to clown the decision to fight Ortiz??

[Rip Chudd]

why welterweight? why not JMW? Cotto Martinez and Margarito would be better in my opinion.

Then you would say he's fighting Pac's leftovers. SMH, please shut up. You're obviously a troll.

[gayfish]

This is the definition of a hater. Tell me what was Clottey's best win? A blown up Chico? What was Margarito's best win? He's 1-3 in so called big fights with his lone win being a fight in which he used plaster against Cotto. Keep it funky....Floyd's decision to fight the best out there is embarrassing your boy Pac. Two years ago, they didn't need Marquez, they beat him already, nothing to prove, yadda yadda yadda...but now at the tender age of 38 he's able to get a fight?? And you choose to clown the decision to fight Ortiz??

naaah. PAc aint my boy. and how is victor the man to beat at WW when he only won a competitive fight against a protected/overrated average at best WW in berto? thanks ill wait for your answer.

[gayfish]

Then you would say he's fighting Pac's leftovers. SMH, please shut up. You're obviously a troll.

Nobody is talking about pac. WE were arguing if Ortiz was REALLY the dangerous WW fighter he is being portrayed to be. so i guess you shoud heed your own advice thanks.

[Larry the boss]

Ortiz win , his only welterweight win was against a protected overrated fighter, who is average at best. a competitive FOTY win, i just see a cherrypick.

so who else at ww should be fight besides manny who is fighting a lightweight?

[Larry the boss]

naaah. PAc aint my boy. and how is victor the man to beat at WW when he only won a competitive fight against a protected/overrated average at best WW in berto? thanks ill wait for your answer.

Who other than Manny do you rate over Ortiz??

[Larry the boss]

name another ww other than Manny that is a better fight than Ortiz..............i'll wait

[gayfish]

the thing is, with all due respect to you floyd fans. FLOYD was choosing between a possible match against two B- fighters as his next fight. which really is unimpressive if you take your fanboy shades off. he shouldve not duck PAC or go at 154 where Cotto or Martinez would be happy to fight him. Now that would be a better legacy fight for floyd i might add.

[Larry the boss]

the thing is, with all due respect to you floyd fans. FLOYD was choosing between a possible match against two B- fighters as his next fight. which really is unimpressive if you take your fanboy shades off. he shouldve not duck PAC or go at 154 where Cotto or Martinez would be happy to fight him. Now that would be a better legacy fight for floyd i might add.

Margo-hasnt looked good in 3 years..and got ko'd by shane,suspended and beaten by manny

Cotto-hasnt foughtanyone since being beaten down by manny

these 2 are better than a fighter coming off of the best win of his career??really

How is Floyd ducking Manny when all he said is take the test,now he's fighting a southpaw maybe Mannys the next fight.....Ortiz is the #2 ww and WBC champion

[gayfish]

Margo-hasnt looked good in 3 years..and got ko'd by shane,suspended and beaten by manny

Cotto-hasnt foughtanyone since being beaten down by manny

these 2 are better than a fighter coming off of the best win of his career??really

How is Floyd ducking Manny when all he said is take the test,now he's fighting a southpaw maybe Mannys the next fight.....Ortiz is the #2 ww and WBC champion

I dont really want to go to all the manny mayweather ODT, its tiring i pretty much blame them both for the fight not happening, i aint gonna lie, i pretty much agree with PAC but he agreed to no cutoff dates.

Floyd have been "ducking" even before the PAC fiasco. and out of no where he chooses between to C to B- fighters after his 2nd retirement. LOL. really?
you going to defend that ****?

didnt we give him enough pass for the JMM and MOSLEY joke of a fight?

Cotto aint shot and i see you avoiding to adress the martinez fight as well.