Another boring and painful-to-watch fight by a Klitschko

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I give Hagler some credit but I don't make it out to be what you people do. They were great little men. So you saying that I give "no credit at all" is just absurd.

Wasn't Chambers a HW for most of his career?

Nah, I remember the thread....you more or less wrote off his whole career becuz it was based off him beating "so called midgets", yet you have the Klits in your top 5, despite you saying people shouldnt have rankings if they havent seen everyone fight.....

You also said Monzon was overrated...so who do you actually rate at Middleweight.....since you have been watching boxing, who is the top 3 MW's you have seen...seen as it is not Hagler or Monzon.....

Yes, Chambers is a career Heavyweight, but thats most likely because he wants to campaign at HW due to its prestige......being 6 foot 1 inches and 220 pounds with no muscles and a 75 inch reach....his dimensions are more cut out for a CW.......

[Johnwoo8686]

That's a load of crap. One fight for Ortiz against Berto at WW is the same as 5-6 fights Adamek had at HW? Talk about some high standards for Ortiz.

Ortiz may not have had six fights at welterweight but beating the best welterweight not named Mayweather or Pacquiao in his first fight at welter is pretty good if you ask me. Who has Adamek beaten? Chris Arreola by majority decision. Mayweather is fighting a guy bigger than him, much younger, and stronger. Klitsckho had every conceivable advantage coming into this fight except for age.

[Mr. Fantastic]

hmm Lennox Lewis is black and he dominated the Heavyweight division and he still got ****ted on it would be the same way if the Klits were black its a style thing not a race thing

He did, but nowhere near the level these two guys are getting. Not even close.

FYI boxing does have a lot to do with race and nationality.

[SplitSecond]

i loved the fight, even tho my brother found it boring
boxing aint just about wars

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That's a load of crap. One fight for Ortiz against Berto at WW is the same as 5-6 fights Adamek had at HW? Talk about some high standards for Ortiz.

Yep, considering WHO Ademek fought...it actually is.......he looked terrible against McBride..who is a scrub..Michael Grant, I give you seen as I am generous......

Berto has a better resume than 80% of Ademek's opposition put together...plus Arreola was the only prime fighter he fought......

[Mr. Fantastic]

Ortiz may not have had six fights at welterweight but beating the best welterweight not named Mayweather or Pacquiao in his first fight at welter is pretty good if you ask me. Who has Adamek beaten? Chris Arreola by majority decision. Mayweather is fighting a guy bigger than him, much younger, and stronger. Klitsckho had every conceivable advantage coming into this fight except for age.

Ok, what made Berto soooooo great at WW? He got a gift belt, Collazo beat him and didn't give him a rematch, most of his "title" fights were against 140 pounders. That's what made him into the 3rd best?

Oh and Mayweather fighting a bigger guy? Didn't Ortiz just move up in weight?

Adamek beat a top 5 HW, Majority or not, he won it with no questions like Berto/Collazo.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Yep, considering WHO Ademek fought...it actually is.......he looked terrible against McBride..who is a scrub..Michael Grant, I give you seen as I am generous......

Berto has a better resume than 80% of Ademek's opposition put together...plus Arreola was the only prime fighter he fought......

This is all fanboy and cheerleader talk.

There is nothing impressive about Berto's resume either.

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He did, but nowhere near the level these two guys are getting. Not even close.

FYI boxing does have a lot to do with race and nationality.

Only becuz you choose to...just about 90% of your posts criticize black American fighters or Puerto Ricans, cuz of your mancrush on Margarito....stop trying to play it off......

A few months ago you say...."I dont support fighter becuz of race"..now your trying to make out like it dont matter ....GTFO

[Mr. Fantastic]

Only becuz you choose to...just about 90% of your posts criticize black American fighters or Puerto Ricans, cuz of your mancrush on Margarito....stop trying to play it off......

A few months ago you say...."I dont support fighter becuz of race"..now your trying to make out like it dont matter ....GTFO

Only cause I choose to? You moron! Look at it from the big picture. Open your mother****ing eyes.

Who were those people cheering for Adamek? His own people! You think if Adamek wasn't Polish, they would be there? Think about it.

Mexicans do it, PRs do it, Blacks do it, Americans do it. You're naive.

I criticize everyone. You obviously forgot to mention that I criticize Chavez Jr. who happens to be Mexican.

You keep trying and trying but keep failing. You're not smart enough son.

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i loved the fight, even tho my brother found it boring
boxing aint just about wars

Tell your bro to tune in tonight to watch Ponce and Gamboa, that's sure to produce some fireworks