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Toneys gonna beat Lebedev's ass
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Originally posted by Grinderman View PostIt's very sad when you read people saying Toney or Evander can beat any heavyweight alive, when the truth is Toney got beat by Sam Peter twice and has never been the same since, and Evander got beat easily by Sultan Ibragimov.
I agree, hes irrelevent at HW. But if he gets in shape and fights at Cruiser, he could do something.
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Originally posted by Tmann400 View PostToney will make it rough, awkward and very difficult for Lebedev. Toney will be forced to come in decent shape if the fight is at cruiserweight. I'll take Lebedev by close decision. It wont be easy though.
Why would you want to see him take more head trauma when he can barely speak now?
Lebedev could be the fighter than turns him into a complete vegetable.
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Originally posted by Grinderman View PostYou are talking about a Toney who no longer exists.
Why would you want to see him take more head trauma when he can barely speak now?
Lebedev could be the fighter than turns him into a complete vegetable.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostToney got robbed against Peter in the first fight.
I agree, hes irrelevent at HW. But if he gets in shape and fights at Cruiser, he could do something.
The second fight was also close, but Peter did take it. The thing is, Toney took big head punishment in both those fights. Peter is a very strong guy who hits hard.
James has never been the same since those fights. He's so punchy he is losing his temper in public, getting kicked out of gyms, slurring and mumbling away. It's very sad that he would get licensed to get in a ring at this point.
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are people forgetting that Toney got gift decisions against Fres Oquendo and journeyman Danny Betchelder, who has lost 6 out of his last 6 fights(well, except for his win over Toney)? And that was a Toney that was on steroids.
damn people. damn.
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Originally posted by LegendOfLink View PostLebedev hit Roy so hard that Roy thinks Berto can be competitive against Pacquiao and Floyd.
Like him or hate him, it's criminal that he would get licensed to get in a ring in his condition.
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How many points do you want to bet, Larry? Lebedev should be ashamed of himself for cherry picking old and/or shot boxers.
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Originally posted by Steak View Postare people forgetting that Toney got gift decisions against Fres Oquendo and journeyman Danny Betchelder, who has lost 6 out of his last 6 fights(well, except for his win over Toney)? And that was a Toney that was on steroids.
damn people. damn.
Deontay Wilder just KO'd Reed in two rounds.
Oquendo definitely got robbed against Toney.
James is obviously on something to speed up his metabolism and cut weight, but weight was only one of his problems. His reflexes are gone, he has no power, he's punchy as hell.
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