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  • El.Naranjito707
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    #11
    Originally posted by Kalion
    Who has Khan Fought that is better than Berto?
    I meant he has fought better quality of Opponents than Berto has...Maidana, Zab well that looked better on paper than it actually was, Malignagi (even though he has a feather fist hes a known name), Kotelnyk and Barrera (even though overweight and past prime). Khan has the better names on his resume but if you look at the fighters in the stages they fought Khan or Berto true they are pretty much the same...I'm not a fan of Khan or Berto but If Ortiz could do what he did to Berto I'm sure Khan could do what he usually does unless he takes a huge huge shot. The way I see it is they both need to step it up F it why not make the match and whoever wins we will say is the best. Arguing on a message board is not going to prove anything might as well just watch it and whoever wins wins.

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    • Kalion
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      #12
      Originally posted by _original_
      This would be a really good fight to make if Khan is serious about campaigning at WW, but I don't give him a chance tbh. I think Berto stops him in the mid rounds, wobbles him a little bit with a right hand and then pummels him against the ropes IMO. Unless Khan somehow gets a chin, but even then I don't see Khan winning. Yes Berto tires very easily, but Khan isn't exactly Mr. Cardio himself. I think Khan is a pretty good boxer but his chin will never allow him to be that good.
      My thoughts exactly, Berto may get hit a bit to much but he has a solid chin. Khan has displayed a glass chin already, Berto would be the hardest puncher hes faced to date and with just as much if not more hand speed. I dont see how anyone expects Khan to dominate Berto. This fight has Berto by Early KO all over it.

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      • DET. IRONSIDE
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kalion
        Who has Khan Fought that is better than Berto?
        I believe Maidana, Kotelnik and even McCloskey are better than Berto.

        Hell that shot Zab Judah that threw down with Khan is probably around the same league as Berto.

        Maidana would be the closest to Berto style wise but all you have to do is compare the speed of Ortiz which bring me to your original question.

        Originally posted by Kalion
        Very much true, speed does kill. But who said Berto was a slow? Also take into account Khan may not be as fast as he was at 140. What about the power gap and Khan questionable chin?
        That chin's been tested. I'd say it was more to do with his legs being weaker at 135 and that he has gained strength in his legs working with Ariza. Now he stays on his toes during a fight. He's not very flat footed. He moves around the ring a lot. Berto can get dizzy and confused when someone fast is coming at him.

        If Khan were able to keep Berto at bay with his jab then yes Id agree Khan by UD, but as Zaveck was tagging him Berto was walking through those punches at will. You think there that big of a skill gap between Berto and Khan?
        Its all really to do with how Khan can deal with moving up. I think a 147 Khan would hold his speed and be able to take more punishment. At the same time I think he could have a higher workrate. The boyu is still peaking, we're not talking some 28-29year old here. This kid is 25. He's still peaking.

        I think he could take Berto down with ease. Its a fight I wanna see.

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        • Kalion
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          #14
          Originally posted by El.Naranjito707
          I meant he has fought better quality of Opponents than Berto has...Maidana, Zab well that looked better on paper than it actually was, Malignagi (even though he has a feather fist hes a known name), Kotelnyk and Barrera (even though overweight and past prime). Khan has the better names on his resume but if you look at the fighters in the stages they fought Khan or Berto true they are pretty much the same...I'm not a fan of Khan or Berto but If Ortiz could do what he did to Berto I'm sure Khan could do what he usually does unless he takes a huge huge shot. The way I see it is they both need to step it up F it why not make the match and whoever wins we will say is the best. Arguing on a message board is not going to prove anything might as well just watch it and whoever wins wins.
          Ortiz won by outbrawling Berto in a slugfest.

          Khan cant come anywhere near to doing what Ortiz did. He dosent have the chin, power or brawling skills to do so.

          Also, Khans resume vs Berto resume means nada if you agree they both haven't fought anyone of significance. Styles is all that matter and stylistically Berto is a nightmare for Khan.

          Berto would have a better shot at beating Pbf but thats another topic.

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          • ChampBox@PR
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            #15
            Khan TKOs Berto late. Khan is better at everything than Berto, plus is faster with his hand and feet and hits just as hard!

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            • Kalion
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              #16
              Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE
              I believe Maidana, Kotelnik and even McCloskey are better than Berto.

              Hell that shot Zab Judah that threw down with Khan is probably around the same league as Berto.

              Maidana would be the closest to Berto style wise but all you have to do is compare the speed of Ortiz which bring me to your original question.




              That chin's been tested. I'd say it was more to do with his legs being weaker at 135 and that he has gained strength in his legs working with Ariza. Now he stays on his toes during a fight. He's not very flat footed. He moves around the ring a lot. Berto can get dizzy and confused when someone fast is coming at him.



              Its all really to do with how Khan can deal with moving up. I think a 147 Khan would hold his speed and be able to take more punishment. At the same time I think he could have a higher workrate. The boyu is still peaking, we're not talking some 28-29year old here. This kid is 25. He's still peaking.

              I think he could take Berto down with ease. Its a fight I wanna see.
              Come on bro you cant be serious, I dont know if youre a Berto hater or just screwing with me. Berto at WW vs Khan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Judah that Khan faced as well as anyone else.

              Khans best win to date is Miadana and hes was tailor made for Khan and he still got ****** up in that fight.

              You gotta be on something if you think Bigger, Faster, More skilled Berto wont touch Khan just as often if not more.

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              • Kalion
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                #17
                Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                Khan TKOs Berto late. Khan is better at everything than Berto, plus is faster with his hand and feet and hits just as hard!
                no....just no.

                Khan dose not hit as hard at JWW as Berto does at WW.

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                • DET. IRONSIDE
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                  #18
                  I forgot to add, he could just keep Andre on the outside and dismantle him.

                  No sweat cos Berto is quite one dimensional. What Berto had going for him on Saturday were size and power.

                  Khan is bigger and could deal with him.

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                  • The_Demon
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                    #19
                    50/50 imo,if it goes the distance i think Khan would nick a decision but Berto is a bigger puncher and could get the stoppage its a tough call and a fight id love too see in the future

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                    • Phenom
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                      #20
                      I would bet on a Berto stopping Khan but too me the fight could go either Khan SD/UD or Berto KO/TKO

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