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  • PD21
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    #21
    #2. Mayweather will fight Victor Ortiz the same freaking way he fought Mosley.
    I have said this.

    Mayweather will move forward with his double guards and then jab. Basically if Ortiz tries to punch him he will block all and then jab Ortiz
    At the face to face Floyd revealed Ortiz would not have to go looking for him and that he would stand with him. I dont believe this was bravado. Floyd cannot use his legs like he once did. He cant box the same way he fought Baldimor because he doesnt have it in his legs anymore so he has to stand a counter. The shoulder roll dfence has been replaced with a peek a boo Arthur Abraham type of guard and he may look clumsy for a couple rounds in this fight but after he has walked Ortiz down, made him miss and made him pay, he will take over.

    Running Floyd is gone now and he will never be back.

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    • jrocafeller
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      #22
      Smfh

      Your an Idiot if u really think you have a game plan on how to beat Floyd. Everyone thinks they know the perfect game plan but none ever works. and u didn't even say ****. To beat Mayweather you can't really go with a game plan, u just have to go in there and physically/mentally prepare to get countered with the attitude like I don't care if I get hit i'll just keep hitting him everywhere, on the arms,shoulder,anywhere to wear him down. But it has to be consistent for 3 min of every round. So u will have to be in over the top shape and can't get frustrated. just every min swarm him with activity. Dig the body is most important- you will have to make him tire and slow down. If u can't do that, there is no one who will beat him-too much skill
      -The only guy I see giving Mayweather problems is Sergio Martinez, Pacquiao would be an easy fight for Floyd
      -jrocafeller

      Originally posted by nokia3310
      Well for those who underestimate my knowledge of how to beat Mayweather, i plan to reveal Mayweather's secret here.


      #2. Mayweather will fight Victor Ortiz the same freaking way he fought Mosley.
      I have said this.

      Mayweather will move forward with his double guards and then jab. Basically if Ortiz tries to punch him he will block all and then jab Ortiz.

      People please call Ortiz and email him this. I have said this thing now i freaking hate seeing people fight this guy and go turn themselves into victims. Makes me wonder what all 41 opponent's camp was doing. It really disgusts me when these 41 opponents talk all the trash and cannot even give this guy any problem at all.

      So Victor Ortiz i have told you now. Watch Mosley fight everyday when you wake up and before going to sleep because Mayweather will fight you the same exact way 100%. I am sure you know what to see when watching. I don't have to say everything now.

      Mayweather will move forward with his guards and then counter Ortiz when he tries to punch himself out.

      Please pass this to Ortiz if you know him, see him or work with him!!!

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      • Rolaz
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        #23
        There's always an upset, if floydie is taking ortiz lightly then expect an unexpected! Ortiz is more hungry in winning than floydie protecting his ego!

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        • Travdog
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          #24
          Originally posted by PD21
          At the face to face Floyd revealed Ortiz would not have to go looking for him and that he would stand with him. I dont believe this was bravado. Floyd cannot use his legs like he once did. He cant box the same way he fought Baldimor because he doesnt have it in his legs anymore so he has to stand a counter. The shoulder roll dfence has been replaced with a peek a boo Arthur Abraham type of guard and he may look clumsy for a couple rounds in this fight but after he has walked Ortiz down, made him miss and made him pay, he will take over.

          Running Floyd is gone now and he will never be back.
          Floyd still moves really well....what are you talking about that he doesn't have his legs anymore? He is now mastering his craft and has mastered the art of fighting in the pocket. He started in the Chavez fight and after all these years he has perfected it. If he needs to move in this fight he will, if he has to use the shoulder roll he will.

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          • mathed
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            #25
            Ortiz needs to bumrush Floyd and keep him on the ropes or even better, turn him and force him to step backwards instead of allowing him to plant his feet which he does every time before punching. Floyd springs forward from a stationary position or he keeps his distance and shifts his balance to the back foot to do a pull counter move. On the ropes, Floyd can do the shoulder roll and just lean back on the ropes for support.

            When Floyd is moving backwards, he can't plant his feet or shift his balance, he will likely be in full defense hen moving backwards, which means his offensive production will be nill. That is the first thing.....don't stand in front of Floyd allowing him to plant his feet and put distance between himself and you.

            Second, Floyd will be working the right hand since Ortiz seems to get hit with that a lot. Move to your right and jab- going away from the right hand of Mayweather and off-setting Mayweather's own jab. He should double up the jab at times and follow up with a right hook to the body as Floyd attempts to shoulder roll the jab.

            Ortiz should also work on a jab, jab, straight left combination as Floyd will be open for it when rolling the right hand punches.

            Keep your left guard up high when not punching with it- to block Floyd's right.

            Tie up after each combination......you better believe that Floyd will be doing the same thing to you so return the favor. Don't waste time touching gloves with Floyd or he will hit you . Also, watch Floyd on the breaks, he will hit you then as well.

            When Floyd grabs you, lean in on himand shoot the right uppercut right up the middle and then shove him back, follow up with some strong jabs to keep him always moving backwards after a break- never give him a chance to sucker punch you and intimidate him from grabbing you.

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            • V.WEBB
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              #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Yeah, it's that easy.
              Yep. Sure is.

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              • PD21
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                #27
                Originally posted by Travdog
                Floyd still moves really well....what are you talking about that he doesn't have his legs anymore? He is now mastering his craft and has mastered the art of fighting in the pocket. He started in the Chavez fight and after all these years he has perfected it. If he needs to move in this fight he will, if he has to use the shoulder roll he will.
                We'll see. IMO he has opted not to use his legs anymore. A couple years ago vs Marquez I noticed his movement started to slow. It was a casual pace even though he was still boxing superbly but against Shane was pretty much flat footed and I didnt see much use of the ring at all.

                Maybe it was horses for courses and he had to fight Shane like that but I'd be surprised if he got on his bike vs Ortiz. He is 34 fighting a man a decade younger. Floyd wont be able to keep moving all night at this stage. He has to meet Ortiz centre ring. His handspeed is still quicker but I dont think his feet are as quick as they used to be and for good reason - he is heavier now and in his mid 30's. It was inevitable and had to happen sooner or later. Thing is, this might actually make him a better fighter.

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                • nokia3310
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  Ortiz needs to bumrush Floyd and keep him on the ropes or even better, turn him and force him to step backwards instead of allowing him to plant his feet which he does every time before punching. Floyd springs forward from a stationary position or he keeps his distance and shifts his balance to the back foot to do a pull counter move. On the ropes, Floyd can do the shoulder roll and just lean back on the ropes for support.

                  When Floyd is moving backwards, he can't plant his feet or shift his balance, he will likely be in full defense hen moving backwards, which means his offensive production will be nill. That is the first thing.....don't stand in front of Floyd allowing him to plant his feet and put distance between himself and you.

                  Second, Floyd will be working the right hand since Ortiz seems to get hit with that a lot. Move to your right and jab- going away from the right hand of Mayweather and off-setting Mayweather's own jab. He should double up the jab at times and follow up with a right hook to the body as Floyd attempts to shoulder roll the jab.

                  Ortiz should also work on a jab, jab, straight left combination as Floyd will be open for it when rolling the right hand punches.

                  Keep your left guard up high when not punching with it- to block Floyd's right.

                  Tie up after each combination......you better believe that Floyd will be doing the same thing to you so return the favor. Don't waste time touching gloves with Floyd or he will hit you . Also, watch Floyd on the breaks, he will hit you then as well.

                  When Floyd grabs you, lean in on himand shoot the right uppercut right up the middle and then shove him back, follow up with some strong jabs to keep him always moving backwards after a break- never give him a chance to sucker punch you and intimidate him from grabbing you.


                  Let me be serious here.
                  I think boxing trainers mostly concentrate on the big things and leave the small things out. That is why you see some boxers go in there and play a fool all night. They forgot to read their opponents also. All they do is study tapes their opponents lost or almost lost. That is mostly their mistakes.

                  I have researched this Floyd guy and believe me i have seen all his moves, from the psychological to mental to physical. He is very predictable too. He is not God as i will repeat again.


                  The thing is i have seen some really bad habits in Ortiz that Mayweather will come in to take advantage of. And trust me i see another mistake from Ortiz's camp. They probably will not notice this bad habits and be busy looking at Castillo and Oscar's fights with Floyd.

                  I know exactly what Floyd is thinking and what he will do on Sept 17.
                  So if you know Victor please i need to contact him.
                  If you want Victor to end this Mayweather's arrogant and ****y career, please help me get to him.

                  I know Ortiz may come into the ring that night with these little bad habits again and if he does i will just stop watching the fight because i hate to see mayweather beat guys up seriously. It is like having someone punch me in the nose continuously for 12 rounds and that ain't happening, not anymore.

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                  • Check_hooks
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                    #29
                    I thought this thread was about Floyd's secret dungeon in his house that has a bunch of naked dudes in it.

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                    • Johnwoo8686
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                      #30
                      The way to beat Mayweather is to counter Floyd! How can anybody not see this? Applying pressure doesn't work anymore because the dude has learned how to effectively fight in the pocket. The reason why Judah was so successful was because he was actually countering Mayweather. No one has tried this since that fight sue to a myriad a reasons, mostly because they weren't as fast as him.

                      Force Mayweather to be the aggressor and capitalize on his mistakes. But to do this you need exceptional handspeed otherwise you might end up looking like Marquez did and not the way Judah did those first few rounds!

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