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  • Carpe Diem
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    #71
    He was spot on, he's very smart. One thing he forget is that, Floyd won't stay as flat-foot as he shows on the video and roll his shoulder in the process. If Floyd isn't gonna stay at close range, he isn't gonna have to use the shoulder roll defense because he'll have enough space to just pull back. The shoulder roll is mainly use when Floyd fights in the pocket without using much of his footwork, but when he's out of range he usually use his high guard and lean his head and upper body back to avoid his opponent's straight left and right punches in case they decide to throws them.

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      #72
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Imagine if Floyd looked like Clottey, blocked up all night Two completely different fighters but I'd have to say Clottey's high guard > Floyds, however, Floyd's ability and willingness to actually turn those blocks to counters is completely different.
      Not really. Clottey like to using his high guard defense to block side punches, but Manny still managed to landed straight left on him because he didn't moved his head at all and those straight left got in the middle through the high guard defense. Floyd like to uses the high guard to block side punches, but at the same time, he'll pull his head back and lean his upper body backward just to avoid straight left and right punches that can get through in the middle of the high guard.
      Last edited by Carpe Diem; 09-05-2011, 09:18 PM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by ThePrince

        But the Mayweathers know all this already, they may not be rocket scientists but they know boxing in and out. Hence, the constant 'vacations'. But we already saw how this fight would play out:



        Except Floyd isn't as durable as Clottey and his high guard isn't as good. With his shot legs, he'd be a ****ing sitting duck in there.

        Dude, you're so ignorant. Clottey showed no head, lateral, nor upper body movements whatsoever, and somehow you're trying to implying that's the same way to outcome of the Floyd-Manny fight would be. Other than being an underrated accurate puncher when he[Clottey] decide to throw punches, Floyd and Clottey fights nothing alike.

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          #74
          Lately Mayweather has been using a high guard defense more then his shoulder roll, and he used it very well against Judah, the last southpaw he fought.

          I see the Ortiz fight playing out a lot like the Judah fight; He will lose a few of the early rounds, but he'll be countering clean and solid all night and working the body from early on.

          If he really wants to make a statement, he could put more punches together and go in for the kill in the later rounds.

          As for Pac; he's an in and out fighter, I think a solid jab could keep him in check. Mosley did a pretty good job with a soft jab and Mayweather's jab is 10x better.

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            #75
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            Lately Mayweather has been using a high guard defense more then his shoulder roll, and he used it very well against Judah, the last southpaw he fought.

            I see the Ortiz fight playing out a lot like the Judah fight; He will lose a few of the early rounds, but he'll be countering clean and solid all night and working the body from early on.

            If he really wants to make a statement, he could put more punches together and go in for the kill.

            As for Pac; he's an in and out fighter, I think a solid jab could keep him in check. Mosley did a pretty good job with a soft jab and Mayweather's jab is 10x better.
            Exactly, which means he wouldn't stay off on one side to fight in the pocket against Floyd, and therefore the shoulder roll would be non-useful. Unlike Clottey, Floyd would maintain his distance and use his high guard defense in the process. Some of Manny's straight punches would go in between, but eventually Manny's reach disadvantage would leave himself vulnerable for Floyd to catches him in the process with jabs, and straight right leads.

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