Read this articale about Castillo VS. Mayweather first fight

[Mr. Ryan]

I didn't think there was any doubt at all that not only did Castillo win, but Mayweather was beaten up and fully aware that he lost. To his credit, he took the rematch and won decisively.

Arguing that Mayweather won the first fight only makes you appear unable to score a fight properly and without bias.

Not necessarily, and the rematch only vindicates those that felt the judges had gotten it right the first time. People only look at the end of the fight but early on it was all Mayweather.

[RimmyDelicious]

Not necessarily, and the rematch only vindicates those that felt the judges had gotten it right the first time. People only look at the end of the fight but early on it was all Mayweather.

Are you from Union City? I'm live in Hoboken, actually.

[Mr. Ryan]

Are you from Union City? I'm live in Hoboken, actually.

I lived for a long time in Union City, I grew up in Hoboken on Fourth and Adams. What part are you from?

[Ray*]

What gave many the impression that Castillo had "clearly" won was that late in the fight Mayweather elected to stand toe-to-toe with Castillo and fight on the inside, presenting the image that Castillo was dictating the pace of the fight. It was in fact Mayweather who was initiating most of those inside exchanges and was even getting the better of it often. I like Castillo as much as the next guy but I just didn't see Mayweather losing that fight.

I think the fact that a lot of people dont like Mayweather makes them use the castillo fight to push through their points.

I watch the fight without any biase and had PBF winning the fight, I dont see any controversy like they would have me believe.

[Boofdatruth]

I think this sports writer explain why some people think that Castillo won the first fight. Read this!


Mayweather Beats Castillo. Merchant, Lederman and Lampley...


22 April, 2002 - By Cliff Clark

Floyd Mayweather Jr. won a clear victory over Jose Luis Castillo Saturday night, but somehow TV commentators Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Harold Lederman didn't see it that way. Of course none of these three men has ever boxed, or knows very much about boxing, but that doesn't stop them from being the three most pompous asses ever to ruin a boxing telecast. Not only did they report a different fight than the one that was taking place; they made snide remarks about Mayweather being a "house fighter", being a "gifted" fighter, and otherwise implied blatant favoritism by the three judges. All of the judges correctly saw Mayweather winning by a very solid margin. Their cards were very similar.

The job of commentators should not be to score the fight, but to comment on it. Jim Lampley especially seemed unsure of just how some rounds should be scored. "Tough round to score" Lampley opined after the 11th round, a round that saw Mayweather rock Castillo back with sharp left hooks, and a variety of counter shots. They all seemed to see the fight differently. Lederman had Castillo winning by a solid margin after the 11th while Merchant had Jose winning by a single point. The only thing they agreed on was that Floyd Mayweather was beaten. "I don't think there is any controversy" Merchant exclaimed. "I think most people believe Castillo won." This asinine comment tells you why three boxing judges often have a fight scored so astoundingly different. They are simply as many incompetent judges as there are inept commentators.

The person who did the compubox punch stats for the Mayweather-Castillo fight must have been named Castillo. Mayweather out boxed Castillo by a mile in the first round. Floyd clearly out boxed Jose in each of the first five rounds, landing numerous jabs and hooks, and drawing blood from Castillo's nose. By the end of the fight Castillo's cheeks and left eye were puffy, while Mayweather's only mark came from a head butt. Although Castillo did connect with some good solid punches, he landed far less often than Mayweather. Floyd finished the fight without any swelling or marks on his cheeks or eyes. Castillo is a very tough and sturdy lightweight who had a nine-pound weight advantage coming into the ring. Jose also showed a granite chin, but that doesn't land any punches for you. Many of the punches compubox credited Castillo with didn't land effectively. Castillo's punches were largely missing, or landing on Mayweather's gloves, elbows, or shoulders, straying below the belt, or landing after the bell. The name of the game is boxing, and the rounds should go to the boxer who lands the cleaner, harder, punches, and of course they need to be legal punches.

The sixth round was fairly close but I gave it to Mayweather. I guess if you were looking to give Castillo a round after he lost the first five, you might have given him that round. Castillo won the seventh, eighth and ninth rounds on my card as he tried to swarm over Mayweather with tremendous aggression. Mayweather seemed to be coasting in these rounds, trying to get Castillo to punch himself out a little. After fouling Mayweather about 50 times, and after repeated warnings to Castillo about punching on the break, punching low and punching after the bell, the referee finally took a point from Jose for contemptuously hitting on the break.

At that point Larry Merchant bitterly complained that the referee was being too "officious." However, that point deduction became a wash when the referee took a point from Mayweather for pushing off with his left forearm, which is something you tend to do when someone continuously runs into you with their head and shoulders. In fact at one point Castillo grabbed Mayweather, got him turned around, and then hit Mayweather a couple of times in the back with the referee just standing there. Even the commentators, except for Merchant, thought that was a very strange thing for the referee to allow.

Mayweather came back strong to win the 10th and 11th rounds going away. By the finale three rounds he had Castillo broken down a little, and he stood in there and punched with Castillo. Floyd ripped off sharp combinations and many good counter punches in those rounds. There is no way a competent judge would score rounds 10 and 11 for Castillo. The twelfth round was much closer and I gave it to Castillo. My score card read 115-111 for Mayweather, the same as two of the judges. The third judge had the fight 116-111 for Mayweather. They saw the same fight I did, and a different one than the commentators saw. I used to like 15 round title fights, because they separated the fighter's abilities in a way that was easier for mediocre judges and commentators to pick up on.

I remember the way Harold Lederman scored some rounds in the Hopkins-Trinidad fight, and a few other fights. He's just not very good at it. When one fighter is obviously outclassed and getting hurt, that seems to be the only time Lederman consistently gets it right. I even think that the other Lederman, I think her name is Julie-I don't know if she is his daughter or what-is better than he is. At least she scored the last Holyfield-Ruiz fight better than Harold did.

The article is right on. The HBO crew was pissed because Floyd was in a tough fight, and didn't go toe to toe. Even if you say Floyd lost, that means Castillo had to have won 7 rounds against Floyd, or you had Castillo winning more rounds than Floyd while scoring some rounds even. This was one of the many reasons why Floyd never got along with HBO. Cotto and Margs fans are the only fans who think Floyd LOST.

[Mr. Ryan]

I think the fact that a lot of people dont like Mayweather makes them use the castillo fight to push through their points.

I watch the fight without any biase and had PBF winning the fight, I dont see any controversy like they would have me believe.

If Mayweather lost a fight in my eyes, I'd be the first one shouting from the rooftops that Mayweather lost. But I wouldn't want to take from someone what they rightfully won, and in my eyes Mayweather has never lost a fight.

[Boofdatruth]

I think the fact that a lot of people dont like Mayweather makes them use the castillo fight to push through their points.

I watch the fight without any biase and had PBF winning the fight, I dont see any controversy like they would have me believe.

Me neither, but me and you are somehow called Floyd fanatics lol.

[Boofdatruth]

whoever think Gayweather won cheack out the punch stats

Yeah, those same punch stat numbers say Sweetpea beat Dlh, but did Pea get the win? lol. I'm surprised punch stats are now respected lol...oh, we're talking about Floyd, not Dlh lol...

[Boofdatruth]

Castillo threw more punches, landed more punches and won the fight. End of story.

Yeah, Sweetpea did that with Dlh and lost lol. Why is that?

[Ray*]

Me neither, but me and you are somehow called Floyd fanatics lol.

Yeah thats quite funny, If you try to speak the truth then you get labelled a floyd fanatic or as 2501 would put it a floyd stan.

I watch the fight so many times just to see what the controversy was but find it hard to find any, the HBO crew even went as far to score a round that Castillo was deducted a point a 9-9 round but the same HBO crew scored the round were PBF was deducted a point a 10-8 round in favour of castillo...Now if that isnt blatant biase then i dont know what it is.