Would Pacquiao have gotten more credit for beating Andre Berto than Shane Mosley?

[Bushbaby]

Yes he would. Unify welterweight & possibly becoming lineal is far greater than beating an already proven shot fighter. But not in the real world. The fact is that Pacman has the biggest fanbase world wide. That's why the casual fan nutts in his spandex everytime they talk about Pacman beating Mosley or Margarito.

Also if Pacman beat Berto, (which i have no doubt he would have), then there wouldn't be an Ortiz-Mayweather fight period. That cannot be overlooked either. Now Floyd will again outdo Pacman by beating the higher ranked fighter, again while both are fighting around the same time. Now, if Floyd beats ortiz he walks away with having beaten the #2 welterweight & probably overtakes Pacman pfp. After all Pacman only got there cause Floyd quit anyway. Berto was the welterweight to beat when Pacman fought Mosley.

[big_james10]

i'm still surprised how can people be putting berto on pac's hitlist. he has never beat anyone meaningful. the ortiz fight just proved pac was right to go with mosley. it was a huge stinker, but berto would have been KO'd in 2 rounds against pac, with the stamina he showed in the ortiz fight.

Pac couldn't finish Marquez after knocking him down three times in the first round. But I guess you think Marquez has a much better chin.

[big_james10]

the question was not "what would you have rather seen?"

the question was "would he have gotten more credit?"


the answer is no he wouldn't have gotten more credit.

berto is garbage.

mosley is shot but at least he had name.


now stfu.

Pac would have gotten more credit for fighting a tomato can than he did Mosley (oops, they are one in the same...sorry). Berto was a young, undefeated champion in his prime who was coming off of a good performance. Mosley was a washed up former great who was exposed in his last two fights as a washed up former great. What Pac did was the equivalent of the Green Packers choosing to play the Carolina Panthers (the worst team in the 2010-11 season) in the 2011 Superbowl instead of the Steelers and then saying, "look at what a great champion I am". Prior to that, he chose to fight the the second worst team in the Cincinatti Bengals (Antonio Margarito). Then his worshippers claimed "this proves he is better than Mayweather; he fought and beat the guy Mayweather avoided."

Fighting Berto, Sergio Martinez or even Timothy Bradley would have given Pac more credibility in his claim as the best P4P fighter in the world. Fighting Mosley, Margarito and now Marquez (in a fight that is two years too late) only lends credibility to what his detractors have been saying for years -- he fights the easiest fights he can find against opponents who have no business being in the ring with him.

[big_james10]

Its funny. Floyd stans say Floyd made the right choice in choosing DLH over Margarito, because DLH was the bigger name, and made more money for Mayweather.

Yet, when Manny does the same exact thing and bypasses the younger, unknown contender who truly fought no names(Berto),

Manny gets flack for choosing the bigger name and money fight in Shane.


How come Floyd made the right choice in choosing money, but Manny didn't?

You are either delusional or way off base when you say that Mosley was the bigger money fight. Pac would have gotten the same amount of money for fighting Berto as he did for fighting Mosley (he did not get $20 million for fighting Mosley in spite of the reports) as neither one can draw flies to their fights. There would have been a lot more drama in fighting a young, strong, hungry Berto (and therefore more PPV buys) than there was in fighting a washed up former champion.

Margarito has never been a draw on PPV either, while Oscar was the biggest draw in boxing at the time. Also, Floyd didn't fight Margarito because Arum was demanding options on Floyd for the right to fight for Margarito's championship and and Floyd was not going to go for that when he had just left Arum.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You are either delusional or way off base when you say that Mosley was the bigger money fight. Pac would have gotten the same amount of money for fighting Berto as he did for fighting Mosley (he did not get $20 million for fighting Mosley in spite of the reports) as neither one can draw flies to their fights. There would have been a lot more drama in fighting a young, strong, hungry Berto (and therefore more PPV buys) than there was in fighting a washed up former champion.

Margarito has never been a draw on PPV either, while Oscar was the biggest draw in boxing at the time. Also, Floyd didn't fight Margarito because Arum was demanding options on Floyd for the right to fight for Margarito's championship and and Floyd was not going to go for that when he had just left Arum.

Berto has the same drawing power as Shane Mosley?

There would have been a lot more drama in fighting a young, strong, hungry Berto (and therefore more PPV buys) than there was in fighting a washed up former champion.

You just described Floyds career at welterweight.

Marquez 37
Baldomir 36
Shane 38

[Phenom]

would he get more credit for a unification fight against an undefeated boxer who is the best WW not named Floyd Mayweataher or against a guy that is ranked below Berto who lost a one sided fight and just had a draw against Mora..........

[TheAlmighty]

About the same, I never really think Berto was good, the collazo fight proved that. I dont even think he'll beat mosley- the fight tonight will prove that

[Larry the boss]

Its funny. Floyd stans say Floyd made the right choice in choosing DLH over Margarito, because DLH was the bigger name, and made more money for Mayweather.

Yet, when Manny does the same exact thing and bypasses the younger, unknown contender who truly fought no names(Berto),

Manny gets flack for choosing the bigger name and money fight in Shane.


How come Floyd made the right choice in choosing money, but Manny didn't?

Oscar was coming off of a ko WIN and had a title.not a loss and a draw like Mosley


plus these same damn people were critisizing Floyds win over mosley rocking old man shane avy's

[Larry the boss]

anyways......

everytime pac doesn't ko someone , people try to make it out like he was being nice or being merciful or some ****.

pac always tries to ko people.

when he doesn't , it's because he couldn't.


the reason mosley didn't get knocked out is because 1. he ran and 2. pacquiao doesn't know how to cut off the ring

you saw it in the pac-cotto fight too when cotto got on his bicycle. pac doesn't know how to cut off the ring.

he got to cotto a bit more because dumbass cotto kept running himself into a corner or into the ropes.


pacquiao just doesn't know how to cut off the ring and he doesn't know how to wear a guy down.

both things he need to fix , if he ever expects to beat floyd.

great post tua

[Light_Speed]

Of course he would have gotten more credit. Young undefeated champ with speed and power > washed up fighter who used to be great.