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  • #31
    LMAO did you guys see Cotto's face during the Floyd Mayweather - Gatti fight? That man had a face that clearly showed he wanted no parts of Floyd Mayweather.

    Anyway, the fight might have happened if Floyd stayed with Top Rank. It would have been a good fight but Floyd would have been too fast for Cotto.

    What would have Floyd achieved by fighting Margarito? He is a tough fighter but nobody would have given Floyd any credit whatsoever for beating Margarito. And in hindsight Floyd made the correct decision in avoiding Margarito because who knows how long this dude has been using loaded hand wraps.

    Floyd is now risking his legacy by fighting a fighter who has nothing to lose and everything to gain. A fight like this is always dangerous and lets not forget that Victor is part of GBP. Floyd should win this easily but if Victor can land a few of his straight lefts then the night can turn bad for Money Mayweather.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by True Class View Post
      Why shouldn't he be held to the standard he created for himself?

      No fan cared that any fighter had previous losses or were a PPV draw until Floyd made it an issue and used it avoid the best of the weight class.


      You got time to listen to every word that comes out of Mayweather's mouth, I rather not listen to a moron like him but hey thats why you're the *****...........Carry on

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      • #33
        Originally posted by welcometosaigon View Post
        Most people agree that outside of Manny, Ortiz is the best 147 fighter that Mayweather could face right now.

        He fought Oscar at 154 for way more money instead of fighting Marg. Do you think Floyd would be the PPV attraction he is now with out the ODLH fight?
        I don't care about "PPV attractions". It doesn't make me a fan of boxing. Real fights like Marquez vs Vazquez do. I don't care how much money fighters make because thats not what I watch sports for. I watch to be entertained by competition.

        Now, if Margarito was as easy as Floyd said he was, he would have beat him, before or after DLH. So nobody really gives a **** that he fought DLH for more money.

        Now, about the welterweight class, its **** now. Compared to when it was really poppin' between 07 and 08, when Floyd was the lineal champion. He chose to avoid every single threat in the division at that time. Just because hes fighting someone deemed to be one of the best now, doesn't make up for lost time. Especially when that "one of the best now", has 1 fight at 147, against another unproven guy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          You got time to listen to every word that comes out of Mayweather's mouth, I rather not listen to a moron like him but hey thats why you're the *****...........Carry on
          Uh, he said these things about 4 years ago.

          You heard them, I heard them, we all heard them.

          So again, can you justify this fight based on his own standards?

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          • #35
            Cotto is the most overrated fighter on this entire forum.

            Victor is young, hes champion. Because he's fighting Floyd, *******s label him a bum.

            Victor is a good fighter and is better than Cotto. This will be a better fight.

            You guys act like Ortiz isn't a champion and that he hasn't redeemed himself after the stoppage against Maidana, in which I believe he was ahead.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SP1 View Post
              LMAO did you guys see Cotto's face during the Floyd Mayweather - Gatti fight? That man had a face that clearly showed he wanted no parts of Floyd Mayweather.

              Anyway, the fight might have happened if Floyd stayed with Top Rank. It would have been a good fight but Floyd would have been too fast for Cotto.

              What would have Floyd achieved by fighting Margarito? He is a tough fighter but nobody would have given Floyd any credit whatsoever for beating Margarito. And in hindsight Floyd made the correct decision in avoiding Margarito because who knows how long this dude has been using loaded hand wraps.

              Floyd is now risking his legacy by fighting a fighter who has nothing to lose and everything to gain. A fight like this is always dangerous and lets not forget that Victor is part of GBP. Floyd should win this easily but if Victor can land a few of his straight lefts then the night can turn bad for Money Mayweather.
              Who says nobody would have given Floyd credit for beating Margarito?

              Nobody but Floyd stans.

              He ducked, he avoided, he retired and vacationed like a little ho.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by True Class View Post
                so why is Floyd fighting Ortiz again?
                Because he's the #3 Welterweight in the world. And the #2 guy doesn't want to fight unless he's allowed to have his bloodstream filled with illegal substances.

                He didn't want to fight Margarito because "he has losses"
                He didn't want to fight Cotto because, "Cotto has to get his PPV #s up"

                "Who? Shane Mosley that got 5 losses?"

                "He's not a PPV attraction"



                Despite the RHETORIC he still fought Mosley, correct?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Player3 View Post
                  Because he's the #3 Welterweight in the world. And the #2 guy doesn't want to fight unless he's allowed to have his bloodstream filled with illegal substances.






                  "Who? Shane Mosley that got 5 losses?"

                  "He's not a PPV attraction"



                  Despite the RHETORIC he still fought Mosley, correct?


                  He fought Mosley when he was 38 and out of the ring for 16 months.


                  Yea, I can see how that is much tougher than facing a guy who is in his prime and fighting twice a year, year after year, after year.

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                  • #39
                    ortiz is bigger hits harder 10 years younger he has some advantages over him thats why its a good match up

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by True Class View Post
                      He fought Mosley when he was 38 and out of the ring for 16 months.


                      Yea, I can see how that is much tougher than facing a guy who is in his prime and fighting twice a year, year after year, after year.
                      pacquiao fought mosley after he got his ass beat by mayweather and got a draw with mora and was 40 years old

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