Comments Thread For: Conte on Ward-Froch: Let's Hope The Testing Happens

[SAJ10]

Medved - please!

There might be a lot of validity in what you say regarding Conte, but don't then try and make out Ariza is definitely not producing PEDS for certain fighters.

When Pac refused to take random testing. The only guy who moves up divisons and divisons and gets increasing strength, power and speed.

Conte 'PEDS' didn't do much for Judah! He hardly through any punches in the fight before Khan, just used his defence to avoid shots and pot shotted a few shots a round, hardly great stamina from PEDS is it.

Judah looked really on PEDS against Khan as well didn't he?

And if you're right, what's the answer, shall fighters just stp fighting because you won't detect PEDS anyway.

Ward can either take the test - in which case Froch fans will just say, the PEDS are undetectable or

He can refuse the test because Froch hasn't asked for it before the contract was signed and people will then say he's on PEDS so refusing to take the test

If Ward takes the test and passes then that has to be that

It isn't only Conte that can make these undetectable PEDS, there will be people all over the World that can do it.

So is Froch on them?

He can take the test and if he passes doesn't mean he isn't on them.

The fact of the matter is any fighter in the World can be on them.

All Ward can do is agree to random OST testing, no more.

Otherwise lets call the fight off because what's the point. If people will just say well he can pass the test, then so can Froch, so they're both under su****ion.

It's pointless even doing OST if it's true, so I'll take it back Pac. If you can beat the system, then why won't Pac take the tests?

What has Ward done to look su****ious? Has he ko'd anybody? I mean for goodness sake, he looks that mad that Froch said he can't punch for jack and has feather duster punches.

Has he moved upto Cruiserweight and knocked the World Champ out.

It's ridiculous now!

All you got is Froch and his fans looking for an excuse[s] should he lose the fight.

What's Froch's next moan going to be?

If he wants testing fine?

I'm sure Ward will agree if Froch pays for it.

Lets just remember one thing, if they pass the tests, what is there to say they are both not using PEDS.

[SAJ10]

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Conte 'PEDS' didn't do much for Judah! He hardly 'threw' any punches in the fight before Khan, just used his defence to avoid shots and pot shotted a few shots a round, hardly great stamina from PEDS is it.

All I see is a stressed out Froch. For a guy that says he is confident as could be - Ward can't punch and he'll walk through Ward easy....

Yet on the other hand - all Froch has done is moan about everything he could possibly moan about.

His actions don't say confident. He says one thing and then his actions say the complete opposite.

The dude is seriously worried, you know he's losing sleep worrying about the fight, otherwise he get in his training camp and get ready, instead of airing his worries left, right and centre.

[danmason1448]

How as a sport are we still listening to this guy Victor Conte? He is a disgrace and making us look bad. I'm tired of this "who better to ask than the guy who went to jail for steroids crap" That is a joke, that's like saying lets have Bernie Madoff head up the U.S. treasury. I mean "hey, who better to lead up the country's finances than the guy who tried to defraud the whole system"

VAMA? is this a joke?

Just because the guy will speak to any blogger doesn't mean he is a good source

[Yaconcha]

judah lost to khan because ariza is the smarter drug dealer i mean....nutritionist...erm...ariza vs conte would be better than any khan fight i think. wankers.

[Leohappy]

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Conte 'PEDS' didn't do much for Judah! He hardly 'threw' any punches in the fight before Khan, just used his defence to avoid shots and pot shotted a few shots a round, hardly great stamina from PEDS is it.
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judah didn't have a full camp with conte. he just consulted him for some advice.
and you know guys like conte aren't doing boxing any favour. the guy was jailed for producing PEDs , and money laundering. very respectable guy indeed.

[SAJ10]

judah didn't have a full camp with conte. he just consulted him for some advice.
and you know guys like conte aren't doing boxing any favour. the guy was jailed for producing PEDs , and money laundering. very respectable guy indeed.

Well the advise was awful then if you're looking at performance.

He wasn't doing boxing any favours. The truth is I and nobody else knows whether he is doing anything underhand with PEDS.

Of course people will speculate and assume because of his past rep. But, like I said, there could be people that Carl Froch uses that could give him PEDS or any other fighter in the World could be using somebody that's given them and telling how to use PEDS.

The only thing you can do is random OST.

If it doesn't work then why won't Pac take the tests if you can beat the system?

There isn't anything else you can do, I wish they'd roll out blanket OST but it's too expensive.

If fighters want it for bigger/significant fights they have to pay for it themselves.

Looking at the Ward Froch situation - Ward doesn't have to take the tests, Froch should have brought this up in negotiations before the cvontract was signed, which leaves you to think, it's part of mind games.

However, Ward has said in the past that he'll agree to OST and if Froch wants it, I'm sure Ward will want Froch to pay for it as it isn't in the contract and he's the one that wants it, but payment aside, Ward has always said he'll conform.

If people are going to say well you can beat the testing - then we are only left with three.

No testing and fight
Test and fight
Or no fight

The third option would be ridiculous but how can you make people happy that say test Ward, then say, you can beat the test anyway.

WTF can you do then.

It's the same for everybody in that case. If you can beat the testing then Froch can beat it too and every other fighter in the World could be on PEDS, where does it end.

What's the point in blanket testing if you can beat it, you might as well not test at all.

There has to be a solution where you say, no testing or test and accept the results.

Remember the same applies to Froch, what's to stop him beating the system, it's a two way street.

If they take the test - either both are clean or both are possibly cheating the system.

[goldenbear]

Conte in Boxing

I think Conte is good for boxing. If you want to stop Vegas cheaters hire the best cheaters to watch the floor. Stop hacking hire the best hackers. I believe Conte came to the sport because he knows guys are cheating and it gives him an opportunity to capatilize off it by changing his image and getting his organization VADA involved.

[BattlingNelson]

I think Conte is good for boxing. If you want to stop Vegas cheaters hire the best cheaters to watch the floor. Stop hacking hire the best hackers. I believe Conte came to the sport because he knows guys are cheating and it gives him an opportunity to capatilize off it by changing his image and getting his organization VADA involved.

Would it be smart for the casinos to hire the greatest cheater to help the pokerplayers? That's the way your analogy should read.

[VatoMulatto]

Berto mentioned Remi Korchemny. Haha Remy was also part of the balco team. It's pathetic and very naive of these boxers to work with Conte and Remy. The only reason they get away with it is because boxing is not a mainstream sport so media don't give a damn.

Imagine if Kobe Bryant or Lebron James would hire Conte and Remy and go on about how amazing these new pills are LOL.