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  • Lorily
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    #11
    Ortiz vs Khan is one I would really like to see.... but first we have to see how Ortiz handles a legit champ in Mayweather. I never thought Berto was really legit. It's doubtful Ortiz beats Mayweather, but how he handles that fight will be the real telling factor to what Ortiz is really made of IMO. But if Ortiz loses to Floyd, I doubt Khan will fight him. You never know though.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      You can say the same about JWW....Even though JWW is overrated it's still a much better division than WW. But, you can't say the same about Khan or Bradley for that matter. Because, both are elite at JWW because not only of their skills but resume as well. Can't say the same for Berto or Ortiz at WW.

      I mean what welters are we talking about? We talking about Berto and Ortiz here. We're not talking about World beaters. This is not the 2006 WW division. Where you had Floyd, Margarito, a fresher Mosley, Cotto, and P-Will.
      You still haven't made any real statements to back up the fact that you think he would beat berto or ortiz he hasn't fought in WW and would most likely get KTFO if a slow maidana almost did it i can only imgaine what a faster, stronger, and more athletic fighter like berto would do

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        #13
        Originally posted by Moneynevalost
        You still haven't made any real statements to back up the fact that you think he would beat berto or ortiz he hasn't fought in WW and would most likely get KTFO if a slow maidana almost did it i can only imgaine what a faster, stronger, and more athletic fighter like berto would do
        Well Ortiz never fought at WW and still was able to beat Berto. So it's safe to say a JWW can beat Berto right?

        If a slow Maidana can make Ortiz quit, then "I can only imagine what a faster, stronger, and more athletic fighter like Berto would do"....Oh wait. Hold on, what?

        Anyways, I think Khan is more talented then both. I think Khan jab would give both issues. I think Khan has much more skills than Berto(who skills are average at best IMO), now Ortiz has the tools and skills. But, I like Khan intangibles more so than Ortiz. I think Khan is a more consistent fighter than Ortiz is.

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          #14
          Mayweather would beat Khan, but Khan would beat the other two.

          However, in a P4P sense, JMM is leagues above Khan IMO.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Well Ortiz never fought at WW and still was able to beat Berto. So it's safe to say a JWW can beat Berto right?

            If a slow Maidana can make Ortiz quit, then "I can only imagine what a faster, stronger, and more athletic fighter like Berto would do"....Oh wait. Hold on, what?

            Anyways, I think Khan is more talented then both. I think Khan jab would give both issues. I think Khan has much more skills than Berto(who skills are average at best IMO), now Ortiz has the tools and skills. But, I like Khan intangibles more so than Ortiz. I think Khan is a more consistent fighter than Ortiz is.
            Ortiz has power in both hands and is a southpaw who can take a punch which is why he beat berto...Now khan doesn't have any of that so Berto would just **** him and KO hiss arse

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              #16
              I would also favor all three, but I think Khan can make it competitive against all three and might even surprise us and pull off a win (no chance against Mayweather though).

              The thing is though, all three are capable of KO'ing Khan, but I honestly don't see Khan KO'ing none of the three mentioned.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Moneynevalost
                Ortiz has power in both hands and is a southpaw who can take a punch which is why he beat berto...Now khan doesn't have any of that so Berto would just **** him and KO hiss arse
                I'm not sure if Ortiz can really take a punch. Plus his toughness, heart, and will is still a question mark IMO.

                But, Khan does have better speed than Ortiz. And, more skills than Berto.

                I don't see Berto "raping" Khan. Berto really doesn't "****" anyone.

                What made Berto so good? I guess beating a Mexican cop does wonders for one career.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I'm not sure if Ortiz can really take a punch. Plus his toughness, heart, and will is still a question mark IMO.

                  But, Khan does have better speed than Ortiz. And, more skills than Berto.

                  I don't see Berto "raping" Khan. Berto really doesn't "****" anyone.

                  What made Berto so good? I guess beating a Mexican cop does wonders for one career.
                  Yes Khunt is so skilled he got KTFO by a guy who will never win a interim title let alone a world title and was dropped by a irish bum LOLZ and what makes Berto a win over khan is the fact that he is a pretty big Welter with Power and speed and i can't see him get Ko'd by a bum like amir did the dude is a hype job and your all buying it

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Moneynevalost
                    Yes Khunt is so skilled he got KTFO by a guy who will never win a interim title let alone a world title and was dropped by a irish bum LOLZ and what makes Berto a win over khan is the fact that he is a pretty big Welter with Power and speed and i can't see him get Ko'd by a bum like amir did the dude is a hype job and your all buying it
                    But, wouldn't you agree that he has beaten better fighters than the guy who can't win an interim title and also knocked him out?

                    I mean we can sit here and name plenty of fighters who are All Time Greats. And, were KO'd by lesser opponents early in their career.

                    And, for your last line. Isn't it safe to say that you're also buying into the Berto/Ortiz hype?

                    I mean "****" FFS's.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      But, wouldn't you agree that he has beaten better fighters than the guy who can't win an interim title and also knocked him out?

                      I mean we can sit here and name plenty of fighters who are All Time Greats. And, were KO'd by lesser opponents early in their career.

                      And, for your last line. Isn't it safe to say that you're also buying into the Berto/Ortiz hype?

                      I mean "****" FFS's.
                      His win over maidana is the only oppostion that matters that he has faced and he was lucky in the 10th round plus after seeing marco struggle vs a old ass morales i don't see how great that win really is and no i know the limitations of ortiz and berto there's no buying into the hype when i know they can beat a mere khunt

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