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  • tatangb45
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    #161
    Here are the comparative stats between Floyd/DLH and Pac/DLH:

    Floyd/DLH = 12 rds.
    DLH : 122 landed/587 thrown = 10 landed out of 50/rd.
    Floyd : 207 landed/481 thrown = 17 landed out of 40/rd.

    Pac/DLH = 8 rds.
    DLH : 83 landed/402 thrown = 10 landed out of 50/rd. (in the first 5 rds., DLH threw an average of 60/rd.. It went down to 34/rd. from rd.6 to 8)
    Pac : 224 landed/587 thrown = 28 landed out of 73/rd.

    Pac had an average of 28 landed/rd., Floyd did 17/rd. DLH maintained his average of 10 landed/rd for both fights. These figures do not support the idea that Floyd's counter punching ability was a major factor in the fight. In fact, the numbers indicate that he was landing significantly less per round compared to Pac.
    Floyds power punches were more embarrassing. In 12 rounds, Floyd landed a total of 138, or 11.5/rd.. Pac landed 195 in 8 rounds, or 24.4/rd..

    When a boxer is getting hit with fewer and less damaging punches per round, it follows that he will be more confident to engage rather than cower in retreat. This could explain why DLH performed the way he did against Floyd, where he even slightly increased his work rate in the later rounds. Whereas with Pac, DLH had an unusually high work rate in the first 5 rounds (60 punches/rd.), only to dramatically dropped to 33.6/rd. in the last 3 rds..

    To be fair, there are two ways to interpret those figures(DLH's performance against Pac).
    First, DLH might have initially tried to impose himself on Pac, thinking that with his vaunted power together with an increased work rate, he could catch Pac early and win the fight. However, he might have over extended himself and run out of steam in the later rounds. That could explain why he practically stopped punching.
    Or, he realized that Pac was too elusive for him to catch and after five rounds of getting pummeled, his confidence collapsed, resulting to the most humiliating defeat in his career.

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    • iNDOLiFER
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      #162
      Originally posted by WESS
      Ask Cotto?

      Was those 2 pounds really THAT big of a deal for Pac to demand a CW since Pac DID IN FACT win a fight at 147 before vs De La Hoya?

      Difference is, JMM has NEVER ever ever won a fight at WW or even 144.

      There is a reason Pac wanted this fight where its at. Its funny Pac is finally fighting a Champion but its a LW Champion....

      When's the last time Pac fought a REAL Champion? Cotto, who won a vacant title from a a bum after being smashed by Margarito??????? lol

      daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn 187 murder.

      So what weight did Floyd fought marquez at again?

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        #163
        Originally posted by iNDOLiFER
        So what weight did Floyd fought marquez at again?
        marquez called him out... they agreed on 144... floyd had trouble making the contracted weight but still managed to stay below the WW limit of 147... marquez had the option to turn the fight down instead of floyd paying the penalty and the fight going on.. also weight played no part in floyds win... marquez should have just stayed in his lane... its that easy

        pac has done the same thing in his career and i have a link to prove it

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          #164
          Originally posted by jtiger777
          marquez called him out... they agreed on 144... floyd had trouble making the contracted weight but still managed to stay below the WW limit of 147... marquez had the option to turn the fight down instead of floyd paying the penalty and the fight going on.. also weight played no part in floyds win... marquez should have just stayed in his lane... its that easy
          So coming in heavy like Mayweather is an obvious unfair advantage. Whats new?

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            #165
            Originally posted by iNDOLiFER
            So what weight did Floyd fought marquez at again?
            What does Floyd's weight have to do with Pac demanding to fight Cotto at a catchweight?

            Again 147, 144... its all in the WW division where JMM has NEVER (NEVER EVER) won a fight or even looked half way decent.... FACT

            Pac had won a fight AT 147 yet he still demanded a CW vs Cotto.... FACT

            but keep talking about Mayweather to avoid the convo about Pac, Cotto and JMM..... lol

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              #166
              Originally posted by jtiger777
              marquez called him out... they agreed on 144... floyd had trouble making the contracted weight but still managed to stay below the WW limit of 147... marquez had the option to turn the fight down instead of floyd paying the penalty and the fight going on.. also weight played no part in floyds win... marquez should have just stayed in his lane... its that easy

              pac has done the same thing in his career and i have a link to prove it
              I disagree, I think weight played a huge part.

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                #167
                Originally posted by Bull24
                So coming in heavy like Mayweather is an obvious unfair advantage. Whats new?
                .......and fighting a LW in the WW division isnt? Floyd was such a coward for doing that.... o wait..

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I disagree, I think weight played a huge part.
                  Weight is always a huge part in Roach's game. Doesn't anyone remember that early on Roach even wanted the Mayweather fight to be at a CW?

                  144 was selected for a reason. Team Pac should thank Mayweather for doing it first. Funny thing is, Floyd gets bashed but now people want to flip the script and say its ok for Pac to fight a LW... Some ******s say that JMM will be scientifically better this time... lol wtf?

                  Its even funnier to hear people say that Pac/JMM are the same size but then stumble and fall when asked why cant the fight be at 135 or 140.... especially since its so hard for Pac to maintain weight.. or is Pac not playing the "smaller fighter" role for this fight? lol

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    Weight is always a huge part in Roach's game. Doesn't anyone remember that early on Roach even wanted the Mayweather fight to be at a CW?
                    OK?

                    Originally posted by WESS
                    144 was selected for a reason. Team Pac should thank Mayweather for doing it first. Funny thing is, Floyd gets bashed but now people want to flip the script and say its ok for Pac to fight a LW... Some ******s say that JMM will be scientifically better this time... lol wtf?
                    Yes because nobody has complained about this fight

                    Originally posted by WESS
                    Its even funnier to hear people say that Pac/JMM are the same size but then stumble and fall when asked why cant the fight be at 135 or 140.... especially since its so hard for Pac to maintain weight.. or is Pac not playing the "smaller fighter" role for this fight? lol
                    Funny.

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                    • WESS
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      OK?


                      Yes because nobody has complained about this fight



                      Funny.
                      You don't remember when Roach said that? Also the people bashing the fight don't outweigh the ones attempting to justify it.... which are the very same people who bashed Mayweather for fighting a LW in the WW division.

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